SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - December 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

December 18, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman,  Seely, Lloyd , Quinn, Gurrola, Hudson, Past President’s Dolan, Duran and Newman.

Hosted by: Santa Fe Springs Fire Department

Mike Crook  – Fire Chief

1000    Meeting called to order – President Fortman – (B/C LAFD) Introduced D/C Hayward who welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

Thanks to Ruth and staff for outstanding  hospitality and breakfast.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

Program:

“Mission Incident” – Ventura County Fire Department

Capt. Weisenberg & Eng. Bill Taylor

Background: (KTLA News Report) http://ktla.com/2014/11/18/several-injured-when-vacuum-truck-explodes-in-santa-paula-area/

More than three dozen people were injured Tuesday morning after a vacuum truck exploded at a wastewater disposal facility in the Santa Paula area, prompting evacuations and road closures in the surrounding area.The explosion occurred about 3:46 a.m. in the 800 block of Mission Rock Road (map), about half a mile southeast of the 126 Freeway, officials from the Ventura County Sheriff's Office and Fire Department said."It sounded like a car was coming through my house," said Mike Morin, who cares for dogs at a nearby animal rescue. The truck had been spraying a combustible white liquid at the time of the incident, fire Capt. Mike Lindbery confirmed to KTLA. The explosion spread the hazardous material around in a 300-foot radius, he said. Two workers at the scene, three firefighters and an ambulance driver were hospitalized with unknown injuries, according to Sheila Murphy, a county spokeswoman. Twelve others were being held for observation, she said.

The three firefighters' boots had "spontaneously combusted" when they came in contact with the white liquid from the vacuum truck, said Rick Macklin of the Ventura County Fire Department. The compounds appeared to be sulfuric acid and an organic peroxide, according to Dr. Robert Levin, Ventura County Public Health's medical director.

The owner of Santa Clara Waste Water Co., where the explosion occurred, said the business was established in 1959 and never had a major problem such as Tuesday's. The plant only takes nonhazardous waste, owner Doug Edwards said."This is unheard of, that's why we're so taken aback," Edwards said. The truck that blew up was delivering industrial waste, he said. Aerial footage showed firefighters working to extinguish several small spot fires that were still burning at the facility as of 10 a.m. The blaze was being allowed to burn out on its own into the night. Authorities hoped to begin an investigation into the cause of the explosion by 8 p.m. Fire officials did not want to spray water on the blaze because they were afraid chemicals would run into the nearby Santa Clara River. Mandatory evacuations were ordered for all residents within 1 mile of 815 Mission Rock Road, authorities said. A shelter-in-place order was issued for residents within 2 to 3 miles of that location. A Red Cross shelter was open at 530 West Main Street (map).Mission Rock Road was closed to all traffic until further notice. For several hours, a 6-mile stretch of Highway 126 was closed in both directions between Wells and Peck roads (map). Briggs and Olivelands elementary school were closed as a result of the incident.

The cause of the explosion, which occurred about 50 miles west-northwest of downtown Los Angeles, was not immediately known. Updates on road closures, evacuation orders and shelters were available online at vcemergency.com

 

“Training” Presentation: (Accompanying PowerPoint with embedded video and incident audio)

 November 18, 2014 –0356 hours Incident# 14-0075269 – Santa Clara Waste Water Treatment Facility.

Units responded to reported explosion and fire that became a major HazMat incident with civilian and fire fighter injuries. Ultimately four fire personnel have been retired due to exposure to chemicals and Ventura County Engine 26 had to be salvaged. 

Location was only permitted to receive waste water (sewage). Incident was located in Santa Paula. Patients transported to VCMC and “walk-ins” needed decontamination but accurate ID of materials was not initially available. ER was ultimately shut down due to contamination by an “unknown contaminate” from patients.  A total of three area hospitals were impacted by the incident. Speaker related he should have requested additional SAFETY OFFICERS to make notifications to all impacted agencies / institutions. As “unknown” liquid dried into a crystalline form, it became “shock sensitive” which resulted in an explosion when the rig was moved and when crews walked on material. Ultimately agents from ATF took the material to a lab for analysis (outside their vehicle) as no other labs wanted the “unknown” in their laboratory. The material was thrown over all area, where it dried and became “shock sensitive”.  Todd Road Jail (a nearby facility), Animal Compound (pit bull rescue), and Santa Paula Carwash has oxidizer spread to those locations.  One entire Fed Typed HazMat Team was pulled off the incident to conduct / support decontamination at the Hospital. Incident Safety Officer related they needed their agency helicopter to provide an area view of the incident. 37 people were treated for exposure to the chemical.  70+ dogs removed by volunteers under direction of Sheriff and Incident Safety Officer. LACoFD HazMat 150 responded under Mutual Aid to assist and handled the Todd Jail portion of the incident. They were later replaced with Federal HazMat Team 72. As fire consumed plastic totes and adjacent storage containers, numerous chemicals were mixing and reacting issuing toxic clouds. The HazMat crew(s) worked with DA’s Environmental Crimes Section to sample all totes and other storage containers on site and at an additional storage site used for truck / trailer storage.

The Incident follow-up investigations have resulted in 180 indictments issued to business principles so far.

Lessons Learned:

  • Establish strong control measures at the FRO level.

  • S.I.N. (Safety, Isolate / Deny Entry, Notifications)

  • Deny EXIT as well as entry of personnel until decon has been addressed

  • Coordinate early with Law Enforcement for strong site access control.

  • If you are challenged with containing possible contaminated individuals – contact the surrounding hospitals and neighboring jurisdictions ASAP.  

  • Attempt to verify what RP has told you about the product:

  • Review intel

  • CERS (California Environmental Reporting System)

  • Inventories reviewed may not always be accurate.

  • More Safety Officers early in the incident

  • Focus on AREA Control

  • Notify poson control safety as quickly as possible.

  • Establish relationships with outside resources that will support your operations. (ie local, area, regional or national laboratories)

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Roundtable:

Steve Cooley – MES, Wished everyone in SAFER a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

Eric l. Higgins - Bestway Laundry systems, Manufacturer rep and sales / service for extractors.

Tom Ramstead and Tracy Rabe- Line Gear Fire Rescue Equipment, Representing several product lines.

Jim Evans – Wishes everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment, Thanks first responders for service.

Mike Scheldge – Rescue Litter, A new SAFER vender: Has designed a “Rescue Litter” with unique design features allowing exceptional maneuverability for fire / rescue as well as Law incidents.

Frank Uram –Qual-Com Communications – Handling DRONES from Northrop-Grumman that have IR camera as well as remote camera functions.

Eric Fullerton Fire (Retired)

Louie Rodreguez – CSFA – Happy Holidays, gave a gift to Steve Lloyd – retiring SAFER Treasurer.

Scott Marsahll L.N. Curtis – Has Smith detection equipment, rain gear for up-coming El Nino rainy season.

 Keith Gurrola – Santa Paula Fire Department (Ventura County Fire Department retired): Now working for Santa Paula FD.

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting January 15 th , 2016 at 0930 hours, Los Angeles County Camp 2 in La Canada. Program: “Blue Card” Program” – Alan and Nick Brunacini.

     

    Los Angeles County Fire Department – Camp 2, 4810 North Oak Drive, La Canada Flintridge, CA 91011-3759. Contact: Capt. Dick Weise (951) 808-1914 Cell / rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Jennifer Wise – Associate -  W.L. Gore & Associates

gore.com

jwise@wlgore.com

105 Vieve’s Way

Elkton, MD 21921

(410) 392-3600 Plant

(410) 506-5490

 

Tom Ramstead – Line Gear Fire and Rescue Equipment

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire and Rescue Equipment

www.LineGear.com

Sales @LineGear.com

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

(800) 466-7574

 

Louie Rodriguez – Long Beach Fire Department / CSFA Member Benefits Specialist

lrodriguez@csfa.net

1232 Q Street, Second floor

Sacramento, CA 95811

(800) 451-2732 Office

(714) 580-9338 Cell

www.csfa.net

 

Allen A. Rom – Metro Account Manager

Fire-Dex, LLC

www.firedex.com

allen@firedex.com

780 South Progress Drive

Medina, OH 44256

(330) 242-1923 Mobile

(330) 723-0000 Ext 312

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton, CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co

NAME

PHONE #

EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)

Chuck Seely

(562) 824-3225

firebiz@att.net

Los Angeles Fire Dept/SAFER Pres

Ellsworth Fortman

(661) 6451810

ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

Quala-Tel

Frank Uram

furam@qualatel.com

Torrance Fire (RET.)

Steve Lloyd

shlloyd@yahoo.com

los Angeles Fire Department

Scott Quinn

231-434-1380

scott.quinn@lacity.org

Ventura County Fire Dept

Mike Weisenberg

Fire-Dex

Ventura County Fire Dept

Ventura County Fire Dept

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Ventura County Fire Dept

Michael Weisenberg

805 990-4326

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Hemet Fire Department (Ret.)

Scott Hudson

951-694-2591

scotth@snow-line.com

CSFA/Long Beach FD

Louie Rodriguez

714-580-9338

lrodriguez@csfa.net

L.N Curtis

Scott Marshall

(626) 840-7589

smarshall@lncurtis.com

H3 Safety Marketing

Brian Harvick

6616451845

brian@h3associates.com

Los Angeles County Fire

Dick Weise

951 808-1914

RWEISELACOFD@YAHOO.COM

Torrance Fire Dept

Steve Deuel

310-781-7019

sdeuel@torranceca.gov

Cobra Litters LLC

Michael Schlags

805-896-7993

mschlags@cobralitter.com

Ventura County Fire Dept

Aimin Alton

Ventura County Fire Dept

William Taylor

Allstar Fire Equipment Inc.

Lazaro Martinez

626-255-0433

lazarom@allstarfire.com

Ventura City FD

Lou Manzano

805-256-8522

lmanzano@cityofventura.net

Santa Paula Fire

Dustin Lazenby

805-794-0026

dlazenby@spcity.org

Santa Paula Fire

Keith Gurrola

8053771491

kgurrola@spcity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Eric Higgins

18005426166

sales@bestwayls.com

Los Angeles City

Jim Dolan

562-400-1298

jsdolan123@aol.com

Fullerton Fire

Eric Newman

7145159471

on4day4ever@aol.com

LA County FD

Tony Duran

626-590-2991

Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

MES

Steve Cooley

805-490-9949

scooley@mesfire.cm

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip

Tom Ramstead

949 709 8808

Sales@LineGear.com

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip

Tracy Rabe

929 709 8808

Tracy@LineGear.com

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - November 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

November 20, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman,  Seely, Lloyd , Quinn, Gurrola, Sposato

Los Angeles Fire Department

Frank Hotchkins Training Center

Ralph Terrazas  – Fire Chief

0945    Meeting called to order – President Fortman – (B/C LAFD) opened the meeting and lead the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

Thanks to LAFD Firefighters Local for Coffee Station.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

**Quick Roundtable to begin a modified meeting formataccommodating the presentation “FireStats”:

Joe Sposato – (Vender Liaison) Related the Hawaiian Fire Chiefs Association Conference is next month in Honalulu, new SCOTT AIR PAK selected bySanta Monica FD is on display downstairs. (5500) PSI 45 minute bottle. 

Peggy Curtis  - Fire-Dex - we make Turnout Gear, Helmets, Boots, Hoods, and Gloves as well as Wildland garments.  937-974-7271

Frank Uram – Qualatel Communications: Related he is interested in receiving input  as to utility and desired functionality of (1) Electronic Version of “Keytags” for tracking equipment &  (2) DRONES in the Fire Service.

Scott Quinn – LAFD : Several injuries in LAFD recently – both are now Cal-OSHA Investigations, new class of 53 graduating next Tuesday.

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment - Rep for Black Diamond Leather Boot and Frank Piriano www.blackdiamond.com

 

Jennifer Wise – W.L. Gore and Associates – Gore paralon liner system is big improvement over old liner - improved wicking and thermal protection characteristics.

Keith Gurrola – Ventura County Fire Retired  

Jim - PlymoVent exhaust removal systems – all good

Eric Bestway Laundry Solutions – See downstairs display , Provides equipment and service for PPE laundry.

Stuart Lovi – SCOTT Safety - Related new features on newest SCBA’s, has IR camera on display downstairs on the drill floor. 

 

Program:          

FIRESTATS ™ – Data Analysis for the fire Service

Paul Rottenberg MBA, MPH

(530) 478-0657

paul@FireStats.com

10366 Hawke Lane

Nevada City, CA 65959

Bio:

FireStats is a consulting firm specializing in the analysis of fire service data and in teaching analysis techniques to fire service officers. Company founder, Paul Rottenberg, is a management consultant with over 20 years of experience in economic service and consulting to and for industry and local government. For the past 15 years Paul has been doing economic, data management and policy work on environmental and public works and public safety projects in California, Florida, and East Asia. He has worked with many of the different departments at the State government level in California and with California, Florida and Texas counties, special districts and cities and is a USFA Subject Matter Expert on Deployment Analysis. Paul spent ten years as an active paid-call firefighter/apparatus engineer/EMT with a combination fire department in Northern California and keeps current most of his certifications, including California Firefighter I, Hazmat, EMT and driver/operator.

Additional References:

  1. “Make Better Decisions: Put Your Data to Work”  - IAFC On Scene: April 1, 2012

    http://www.iafc.org/MemberCenter/OnSceneArticle.cfm?ItemNumber=5840

    An outline of Mr. Rottenbergs’ April 1, 2012 presentation to the IAFC.

     

  2. FireStats - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC20uQtmOJzg-657c2vAfxYQ

     

    Paul Rottenberg of FireStats, LLC., narrates short video demonstrations on the use of Excel in analyzing fire service data sets.

Program:

Science of statistics, Would like to see the fire service be more invested in the continuum of healthcare, more of a partner in academic research,

"Statics s the science that makes generalizations, and therefore all progress, possible.  

Like most sciences, it of often misunderstood’. More than most sciences, it is abused by the cynical and rejected by the foolish and obstructive."  -Paul Rottenberg (circa 11/20/15)

We want to find the balance between questioning statistics and common sense.

Your Go-To Graphics and Tables

  1. *Bar Charts

  2. *Data Tables

  3. *Histograms

  4. *Box and Whisker Plots

Examples of each were discussed, limitations and advantages of each were highlighted:

  1. A Better Bar Chart has a title and label on it.  Just like a good map.  

  2. Histogram, continuous data shown graphically

  3. Box and Whisker Plots.  Box in the middle is 50% of the data, with 25% on either side.

     

  • A major limitation in data analysis in the FIRESERVICE is we do not have a uniform methodology in calculating response times from a statistical perspective.  

  • Pie Charts - Color is the enemy of statistics, in introduces an element that makes the grim and sober job of doing statistics harder.  

  • Bias is everywhere and a polite term in statistics.  Refers to systematic error.

  • Bias in presentation of results - Scale for a graph can be chosen to depict a small change look like a big change, or vice versa.  

  • Bar graphs, the highest value should not exceed 75% of the Y axis.

  • Publication bias - Many journals are much too keen to publish reports that give a positive result regarding efficacy of a new regime, compared to the negative trials that did not find any difference.  If a 'vote count' is done on the basis of the published reports, positive results would hugelythe negative results, although the fact may be just the reverse.  

  • Self - selection bias

  • Evaluation of this presentation has a potential for selection bias due to potential respondent leaving (attrition).

  • Selection Bias by a Researcher - walmart example in kentucky during an amo sale with 12 white male respondants that 90% say they will vote for Rand Paul.

  • Outliers and Thresholds.  How do we account for it?

  • The bell curve, the outliers will be out there in the standard divations.  

  • It seems that throwing out 3 standard deviations to the right of the mean is ok in most statistical analysis, unless talking about response times, some of those long responses are very important. Policy to review data “outside” the established thresholds

  •   Policy to review data “outside” the established thresholds – (anything over 10:00 get's special review)  Set the special attention further back in the data to give you a defensible position.

  • Change that it is attributable to an assignable cause or random variation.  If there is no assignable cause?  Then it is random variation.

  • For analysis purposes we have to have a cutoff somewhere.

  • Outliers and Thresholds (visible best in various chart types)

  • ***Developing stats / analysis / display choices to determine “Change due to an assignable cause”

  • GIS does not have rules for coloration, even though jurisdictions may be different, the colors they represent for measure different things but the underlining numbers may be totally different.

Reliability:

  1. “How often you handle your “own district” calls” (AVL vrs defined districts)

  2. Potential “side issue in considering reliability is Training and collateral duties being missed due to call volume

Probability:

  1. Sampling:    Populations versus samples

  2. Confidence intervals and levels

  3. Role Variables:

      • Estimating the strength of relationships

      • Correlation and Regression

  • Small Data is hard to understand as random variation has a visible effect. Consider collecting more data:

      1. Consider more measures

      2. Consider sampling (confidence)

*** Philosophical Problem on the subject of estimates:

The current thinking seems to promote the perception that what actually happened is the most important evidence of an agency’s capabilities.

But last year’s data is just a sample of what could have happened.

Last year’s 23 fires will not be the next years 19 or 28 fires. Different buildings will burn and random variation in the counts will necessarily occur.

 

***PowerPoint Presentation from Fire Stats™ was not available for inclusion in the meeting minutes.

 

1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting December 18th in Santa Fe Springs.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Jennifer Wise – Associate -  W.L. Gore & Associates

gore.com

jwise@wlgore.com

105 Vieve’s Way

Elkton, MD 21921

(410) 392-3600 Plant

(410) 506-5490

 

Paul Rottenberg MBA, MPH-  FireStats ™

paul@FireStats.com

(530) 478-0657

10366 Hawke Lane

Nevada City, CA 95959

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Frank Piraino – National Sales Manager – BLACK DIAMOND

fpiraino@bdboots.com

(315)247-3260

113 Plaxdale Road

Liverpool , NY13088

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                       NAME                         PHONE #                     EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)                       Chuck Seely                (562) 824-3225           firebiz@att.net

Quala-Tel                                            Frank Uram                858-577-2900furam@qualatel.com

Ventura County Fire                         Michael Weisenberg 805 914-4647                                   

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Western States Fire Equipment       Louie Garcia               213-272-5680lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

                                                                                                            jbeauvais@firefighterscu.org

Ventura County Fire (Ret)                Keith Gurrola             805-377-1491keith.gurrola@ventura.org

Los Angeles City Fire                         Scott Quinn                213-434-1380scott.quinn@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions            Eric Higgins                 1-800-542-6166

                                                                                                            sales@bestwayls.com

CalFire                                                 Barry Owens            951-218-4309Barry.Owens@fire.ca.gov

Ventura                                              Aimin Alton                323-895-0589aimin.alton@ventura.org

Firedex                                                Peggy Curtis               937-974-7271peggycurtis@firedex.com

Ventura                                              Niki Carmichael         805-910-5288                                                                                                                                                              niki.carmichael@ventura.org

Ventura                                              Victor Low                  805-234-2777victor.low@ventura.org

BestWay Laundry Systems               Eric Higgins                 800-542-6166Sales@bestwayls.com

PlyoVent                                            JIM CLEARY                 909-720-7064jtc1@roadrunner.com

Ventura                                              Mike Valley                805-479-9176michael.valley@ventura.org

LAFD                                                    Ellsworth Fortman     6616451810                                                                                                                                                                ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - September 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

September 18, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   VP Weise, Past President Duran, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder,  Gurrola,  Sposato

Orange County Fire Authority

 Jeff Bowman – Fire Chief

0940    Meeting called to order – Capt Tony Duran – (HazMat Coordinator LACoFD) opened the meeting by introducing OCFA Assistant Chief Thomas who welcomed SAFER to OCFA and lead the flag salute and moment of silence.

Thanks to AllStar for breakfast hospitality

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Program:          

***Change of scheduled program (DRONES in the Fire Service) due to a family emergency for the presenter -  Substitute program:                                      

Yernell Fire

Captain Dick Weise – LACoFD

Yernell Fire – Granite Mountain June 30, 2013

Granite Mountain Hot Shot Crew – 19 LODD’s

Background: The Yarnell Hill Fire was a wildfire near Yarnell, Arizona, ignited by lightning on June 28, 2013. On June 30, it overran and killed 19 City of Prescott firefighters, members of the Granite Mountain Hotshots. The wildfire was fully contained by July 10, 2013.This event resulted in the highest wildland firefighter death toll in the United States since the 1933 Griffith Park Fire killed 29 firefighters, and the highest death toll from any U.S. wildfire since the 1991 East Bay Hills fire killed 25 people. It is the sixth deadliest American firefighter disaster overall and the deadliest wildfire ever in Arizona

PowerPoint presentation

June 28, 2013 – 37 Active fires in Arizona. Many agencies from several states adjacent to Arizona contributed resources.

Excerpts from “SERIOUS ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION REPORT”:

10 / 18 Discussed

Key factors from the Yernell Incident where discussed while reviewing the 10 / 18 and select wildland strategies. Crew “Typing” (Type 1 vs Type 2) was discussed as it often relates in multi-agency deployments / assignments.

Recent studies regarding 1977 PPE ensembles and their effects on individual decision making with crew fatigue was related.

Photos were shown that were taken by the crew before the burn-over incident (cell phones / digital cameras), visual cues that help identify fire behavior and potential hazards were discussed.

Changes in fire behavior as seen in the photos were discussed as an indicator of changing fire behavior.

10 / 18 Explained:

The Ten Standard Fire Orders and Eighteen Watchout Situations have been developed over the course of the last five or six decades by the wildland fire community.  Each of the Fire Orders and Watchouts have been learned from incidents in which that situation has led to a fatality, entrapment, or near miss incident.  These are stressed to wildland firefighters and every firefighter is expected to remember each of them, even rookies. The Standard Fire Orders are the laws to live by for wildland firefighters.  The Watchout Situations are indicators or trigger points that remind firefighters to reanalyze the LCES system (Lookouts, Communications, Escape Routes, and Safety Zones) and to re-evaluate their suppression strategies and tactics.  Each of these have been written by the blood of wildland firefighters who have lost their lives fighting fire.  One of the first tragedy fires that contributed to the development of the 10 & 18 was the Mann Gulch Fire in Montana. This happened in 1949 and 13 USFS Montana Smokejumpers were killed.  A book written by Norman Maclean called Young Men and Fire tells the entire story of the fire. The Standard Fire Orders were revised (changed arrangement) in 2002, visitUSDA Fire and Aviation to view them.

The crew had 3 radios for Crew Boss and look-outs to share. They were assigned “point protection” (structure protection) on a ranch house (Boulder Ranch) in front of the fire. They choose a route to their assignment through unburned 12’ brush & rocky out-cropping’s instead of keeping in the burn.  Once at the ranch house, they had limited time to prep the site. When the look-out warned the fire was approaching they had about 10 minutes to prepare for the burn-over. They deployed their shelters but were hit by 2000 degree heat which quickly defeated the protective element of the shelters. (Shelters are designed to protect from radiant heat – not convected heat).  

Wind demonstration using the “Wind Wizard” technology was shown through each phase leading to the burn-over incident.

CO studies being conducted for firefighters. Dick related his experience with blood clots, secondary to CO exposure to multiple structure and wildland fires in a short period.  

   

Business Meeting:

11:40 Past President Duran opened meeting

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent , Tony related his experience at the “Continuing Challege” meeting in San Francisico - (How to survive a Cal-OSHA inspection).

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD – NFPA 1977 Wildland. 1971 Helmet Standard being looked at for appropriate length of service. Hoods are being evaluated for particulate protection using a ceramic component. Manufacturers are working to make PPE lighter, gloves with enhanced manipulation / dexterity.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. No reports

Vendor update – Joe Sposado – Oct 6,7 &8 Fire Tech Reno. Good classes, reasonable hotels and airfare.

Technology: Working to improve, Jon is working on background of website.

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Related a bill in CA is working through the legislature to make NFPA 1851 as new law, making adhering to the standard required. Related the Citro-Squeeze product line has added SC-14 cleaner to the fire service to clean hydrocarbon residue from equipment and facilities.

Long Beach – B/C  Paul Alvarado – Related his experience upgrading his agencies PPE program. Spoke of the benefits the info received at SAFER made in their PPE purchases.  VP Pre-Mix fuels: Related they had issues with seizing 2-cycle saws because of the ethanol added to many fuels so they have begun using a purchased “pre-mixed” fuel blend. MotoMix is another brand related by Dick Weise. Added their department will revert back to two medics on a PM Squad after the LA EMS agency advised them the performance of the program was un-acceptable. (effective October 3rd)

Capt Mike Wizenberg – Ventura County Fire – Related about ¼ of the department will be retiring in the next few years. New training model (Learning Management System) being used for all personnel, Tracks training hours, required topic coverage, company activities of any type). Features “outside” invites for participants.

Eric Hainy – Areo Environment – Came for DRONE program. UAV manufacturer to military.

Steve Hoyle – Ca fire Museum – Related they have had several engines donated, some going through refurbishment. Crowd funding site on their Facebook page to refurb Long Beachs oldcivil defense rig. At “Cruising for Cure” – September 26th at Orange County Fairgrounds.

Steve Hoyle (additional information from email) – Orange County Fire Authority (Retired), CA Fire Museum Donations Coordinator - The California Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center has a GoFundMe site, we are raising money to paint our 1953 REO Civil Defense Rescue. Please go to GoFundMe.com/x9sfa4cg to donate. We (the Fire Museum) are accepting donations of any items related to the Fire Service, We have several engine’s we are currently in the process of outfitting and need anything used on an engine.

Contact: Steve Hoyle - Donation’s Coordinator

949-496-5688

stbear@cox,net

 

Jeff Wilkerson Camp Pendelton (Retired)

Kelly Witt – Workright Uniforms – Thanked OCFA for their business. Working with new fabrics with properties that the fire service will be interested in.  (Wildland Gen 2,  “Tech T4”).

Ed Carey – Santa Barbara Co FD (Retired)

Joe Sposado – AllStar Fire Equipment – Pasadena FD will soon put new SCOTT SCBA’s with 5500 PSI bottles. Ventura just was approved for SCBA Grant, AllStar now stocking the new Long Beach Spec. LBFD related their new PPE has been well received by crews. Akron now has a new intake valve with wheel actuation.

Keith Gurrola – Ventura County (Retired) – Lots of overhead and strike team deployments. Advises all participants to maintain training records / documentation for CICCS development through agency reps. State FM instructor update courses are coming to an end.

Julie Bovey – Firefighters First CU – 80th year anniversary this year. Check out their Facebook Page, check the website for entry to a drawing. 

BrianHarvick -  H3 – Introduces a new light for helmet mounted LED light: Great features with rear facing green light for buddy tracking, flood and spot forward. New design of fire axe.

Frank Orin – Qualitel Communications – Has systems for interfacing into radio’s, Bluetooth.

Ed Shaffer – LN Curtis – Has 2-cycle pre mixed fuels available – REMs (Rapid Extraction Module) Will be next month’s topic at L.N Curtis in La Mirada

Stuart Levi – SCOTT Safety – New SCOTT equipment has Bluetooth connectivity from radio to headset. Additionally they have a “crew comm” feature available. Escape belt feature now available on new airpacks.

John Ramirez – SCOTT Safety – Works on Military side of safety gear for SCOTT Safety. New technical data will be available from sensors (chemical, thermal images etc..) on SCOTT equipment that can be monitored world –wide.

Louie Garcia Western States Fire Equipment – Has equipment available now in California.

Eric –BestWay Laundry – Has new detergents available for PPE Maintenance. Sells, installs and maintains Extractor machines.

Scott Quinn LAFD – Tower classes are continuing, just took delivery of three rigs. LAFD is transitioning to single layer gear from a grant. Get “Homeland Study” to see justification to migrate to single layer.

Warehouse fire LAFD had revealed very high levels of CO and HCN during overhaul. The warehouse contained flooring, much of which was “laminate” type materials.

Babara -LACOFire Health HazMat – First meeting, manages some HazMat programs through the LACo Health – HazMat Division of the LACoFD.

BC Takasita LAFD –  Risk Management Manager – First Meeting related his experiences in his role.

Russ Snyder – ORCO – Thanked attendees for attending, has a recruit academy underway, for sees continuous tower classes for the next years. Has transitioned to new work uniforms.

Dick Weise LACoFD – Thanked venders for continuing support of SAFER and related the importance of vender participation.

Tony Duran – LACoFD HazMat Coordinator – Related the importance of decontamination methods should be begun as soon as possible after ANY potential exposure, not waiting till returning to quarters. County is running tower classes continuously. Ventura will be able to provide a basic review of the Mission Incident (The incident is still being litigated).

 

***All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting October xx, 2015 at L.N. Curtis in La Mirada.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – Regional Sales Representative – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom1@verizon.net

(626) 255-0433

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Brian Harvick – H3 Safety Marketing

H3safetymarketing.com

(855) 723-8943/    (855) SAFETY.H3

(661) 645-1845 Cell

25060 Hancock Ave. #103-226

Murrieta, CA     92562

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Kelly Whitt – Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniform

kwhitt@workrite.com

(909) 289-5775

Workrite.com

1701 N. Lombard Street , Suite 200

Oxnard, CA 93030

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Brett E. Maurits - Vice President, Sales – Public Safety – Redback Boot Co. USA

b.maurits@sbcglobal.net

(619) 203-6541

www.redbackboots.com

1031 S. Andreasen Drive #100

Escondido, CA92029

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

 

Mark Sheldone – Fire Safety / Technical Specialist - Manufacture’s Representative

Days-Off Consultants – Fire Equipment Marketing

msheldone@sbcGlobal.net

(760) 505-3473 Cell

Carlsbad, CA 92008

 

Eric Haney – Unmanned Aircraft Systems

haney@avinc.com

www.avinc.com

(805) 581-2187

(805) 208-6840

900 Enchanted Way

Simi Valley, CA93065

 

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency                     NAME                      PHONE #                     EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire -Retired Chuck Seely (562)8243225      firebiz@att.net

LION                                   Michlle Trout  480-225-1324  

                                                                               mtrout@lionprotects.com

Quala-Tel                           Frank Uram     858-577-2900     

Ventura County Fire       Michael Weisenberg     80594647                                   

                                                                  michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

LN Curtis and Sons             Ed Shabro         

SBCRet.                      Ed Carey  805-895-9225   edwin.carey@gmail.com

calif. Fire museum        steve hoyle         949-496-5688   stbear@cox.net

Wolfpack Gear/Paso Robles Fire  Mike Oberndorfer  805.423.2691                       mike@wolfpackgear.com

LA County FD                                     Tony Duran                626-590           firetiget2013-

SAFER@yahoo.com

Western States Fire Equipment       Louie Garcia               213-272-5680lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

AeroVironment                                 Eric Haney                  805-6840         haney@avinc.com

Firefighters First CU                           Juloe Beauvais           323 216-6657

                                                                                                            jbeauvais@firefighterscu.org

Los Angeles County Fire                  Dick Weise                  951-807-1914rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Camp Pendleton                                 Jeff Wilkerson                        9498304087    jwilker@cox.net

Ventura County Fire                          Keith Gurrola             805-377-1491keith.gurrola@ventura.org

Los Angeles City Fire                         Scott Quinn                213-434-1380scott.quinn@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions            Eric Higgins                 1-800-542-6166

                                                                                                            sales@bestwayls.com

OCFA                                                      Russ Snider                 714-308-4338russsnider@ocfa.org

LACoFD Health HazMat                    Barbara C. Vu             N/A                 N/A

Days-Off Consultants                        Mark Sheldone          760-505-3473

                                                                                                            msheldone@sbcglobal.net

Workrite Uniforms                            Kelly Whitt     9          09-289-5775    kwhitt@workrite.com

Redback Boots                                   Brett E. Maurits         619-203-6541b.maurits@sbcglobal.net

H3 Safety Marketing                         Brian Harvick             855-723-8943brian@h3associates.com

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SAFER Monthly Meeting - August 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 21, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder

Carlsbad Fire Department

Safety Training Center

5750 Orion Way,

Carlsbad, CA

Mike Davis – Fire Chief

 

0940    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to FIRE ETC for breakfast hospitality, and Lion -  AllStar for lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Deputy Chief Mike Lopez who welcomed SAFER to Carlsbad and lead the flag salute and moment of silence. Chief Lopez briefed the attendees on the “Safety Training Center” and some of the particulars of the Carlsbad Fire Department. (11000 calls a year / 85% medical, 6 stations, 83 sworn personnel). Chief Lopez related the training facility cost $14 million dollars to build and it’s made the Carlsbad firefighters, police and public employees better.

Chief Lopez thanked the fire service attendees for their service and the venders for their contribution to firefighter safety through PPE improvement(s) and safety product development and support.

Chief Lopez congratulated Deputy Chief Jeff Wilkerson (MCP) on his retirement and thanked him for 38 years of service to the fire service. The group joined with a standing ovation to Chief Wilkerson. 

Chief Lopez introduced Battalion Chief Jeff Chumbley who would present the program.

Program:

Poinsettia Fire – July 14, 2014

                        Battalion Chief  Jeff Chumbley –  Carlsbad  Fire Department

On May 14, 2014, at approximately 10:34 am, the Poinsettia Fire ignited in Carlsbad burning nearly 400 acres and destroyed several structures. BC Chumbley related the initial actions and resource profile utilized on the incident. He described how other active incidents in the region impacted this incident and how other area command officers (including area Fire Chiefs) assisted in the management of the incident. He reviewed the Incident Organizational Chart and discussed lessoned learned for future incidents including assigning a Safety Officer sooner in the incident. Chief Chumbley discussed the concepts of “Fire Front Following”, “Anchor and Hold” and “Transitional Attack” tactics as they are employed on “urban Interface” incidents. He related the difficulty with communications as the incident grew – necessity to move to dedicated frequencies and radio systems (800Mhz vs. VHF). Chief Lopez discussed the importance of developing FMAG application and support documentation to support the financial dimensions of these types of incidents. Incident was an LAR (Local Area Resource) fire so the usual support that occurs with other large incidents that enjoy support of the various “IMT’s (Incident Management Team(s) was not available / applicable.

A Commercial Fire (Sound-Eklin) occurred during this UI fire and the responding firefighters saved the companies “data” from their building by removing the computers / records which ultimately saved the company’s future.    

Critical Factors:

  1. 2% fine fuel moisture

  2. 100% Probability of flame capture

  3. 446 Chains(29,436 feet) / hour

  4. 5.58 MPH

Lessons learned:

  1. Red Flag conditions / Wildland Response

  2. Leader’s intent vs. Independent action.

  3. FD/PD Unified Command

  4. Equipment prepared for Urban Interface / Wildland response

  5. Power lines SDG&E

  6. Air Support – VLAT / Air Attack / Rotor and fixed Wing

  7. Full CDF Wildland Response

  8. “No Divert” on air assets when lives are at risk

  9.  Driving into heavy smoke

  10. Position Qualification’s (STL / Engine Boss / DIVS)

  11. Limited resources due to other active incidents

  12. Local resource depletion (Vista Fire)

  13. EOC Opened:

  1. Logistics Support

  2. Base Campo Support

  3. PIO

  4. Mapping

  5. IAP

  1. Base Camp:

  1. Releasing Resources

  2. Relief of Existing crews

  3. Contingency plans for incident resource needs

  1. Salvage and Overhaul of personal effects of residents / businesses

Powerpoint:

Videos:

 

Business Meeting:

11:40

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent. Scott Quin related LAFD is averaging 1 injury / month. He recommends a heat “Risk Assessment” be included in your departments Risk Documents. Ells related the person responsible for reporting to OSHA needs to be notified in a timely manner to meet the 24 hour reporting requirement and avoid large penalties. LACofd related the death of a Lifeguard who died while pool testing.

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD - began discussing NFPA 1977 regarding wildland helmets, destructive testing and vented helmets, fire shelter industry variances in materials, designs and weight. (15-18 options available). Discussed the SCAM document (NFPA 1854)  for wildland PPE and the pro’s and con’s (single layering)., Cleaning/Contaminates: Biological and Chemical with regards to disinfection/cleaning. Update on Fire Protection Research Foundation (funding, and PPE Cleaning)

DRD. Drag Rescue Device Survey report for Public Input. Chemical List, revision/update list regarding addition/deletion and hydraulic fluid(s) (Phosphors ester) effects on moisture barriers. Survey produced well over 1700 responses and mobile ISP’s Carbon Monoxide Study for firefighters for low level, long term effects and high levels in short term.  UCLA and St Joseph Hospital to study effects regarding respiratory, cardiac, stroke, and deep vein thrombosis related to CO exposure.

LACoFD is now transitioning to single layer wildland PPE, webgear being redesigned with FR material by Mystery Ranch Manufacturing. Hydration standard is being developed for consideration as a Health and Safety mandate , 1854 SCAM Doc for wildland. New STIHL chainsaws are being developed with injection instead of chainsaw. “Motomix” comes pre-mixed for 2-cycle fuel. Has better characteristics than the gasoline being proposed for CA (Ethanol additives). Gloves being studied for protective characteristics. When fire room is pressurized many contaminates enter our crews bodies through their skin via porous PPE at hood, neck, wrists and around the waist. A new moisture barrier is being developed to better isolate our crews from toxins at those locations.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. Ells related LAFD took possession of several KME triples that have selected NFPA standard deficits. Narrow captains seat area, rough engine cowling etc. The new units weren’t ordered with exhaust that connects to PlyMoVent Exhaust removal systems. 

Vendor update - Lazaro Martinez discussed the recent sales activity and three dimensional glove product.

Technology:

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report. Approximately $2400 in reserves. Discussed recent dues contributions from website.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Scott - Ventura County: Discussed “Peck Fire” MTZ (Multiple Threat Zone) Vehicle over the side starting a brush fire. LACofd, LAFD and Ventura County responded with Copter 19. Victim crawled into a tunnel / pipe under the freeway till fire burned over. OSHA experience: a tree trimmer death caused by palm fronds caused the agency to make a Cal-OSHA notification. Related an injury to a crew member while climbing over a fence with a ground ladder that resulted in serious leg fracture. Mission Incident investigation has made seven arrests relating to illegal storage of hazardous materials. Two rigs were exposed to hazardous chemicals and will not be cleaned / sanitized to allow return to service.

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Introduced a new specialist (Gabriel Flores) who knows the pump systems used in extractor washing machines. Related California is drafting a standard based on the provisions in NFPA 1851 as Texas has done. Will likely impact budget requirements for PPE going forward.   

San Diego City

Steve Lloyd – Torrance

Santa Barabara – Ed  

Peggy Curtice – Fire-Dex – Related a three dimensional glove

Russ Snyder ORCO Fire – Just Promoted 19 engineers, new academy class graduating next week. Expecing a rash of Santa Ana Guys to retire next year which will necessitate additional hiring.

Gabriel Flores – Pump expert that supports 1851 extractor units

Scott McKensy – Steadfast moisture technologies – Working with local depts. To develop/ support hoods etc.

Andy Spear Carlsbad FD – Thanked SAFER for coming to Carlsbad Safety Trng Cntr, 9 guys on probation, have numerous members assigned to incidents statewide. FS remodel under way.

John Nelson – Lion Uniforms – Related they have a tri-certified pant, will be promoting a multi bio uniform in the near future

Michele – Lion Related they’re promoting a new glove.

Dick Weise – LACoFD – Related they will be starting a recruit class next month. Related KME lost the FDNY contract and is spreading the loss across all future sales. LACoFD will be going out to bid on future apparatus purchases.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment – Related a project to have “pods” designed for specific risks (mass casualty, chem / bio) distributed throughout the area/region/ state. Could be rapidly deployed to specific incidents with need upon request.

Stuart – SCOTT Safety – Introduced “Rescue belt” feature now available on SCOTT SCBA’s. Has a life safety rated belt strap. Related SCOTT bought ISG Infra-red cameras which will be the camera they develop and market in-house. Introduced a blue-tooth interfaced intercom for “crew com” and voice amplification. Radio (Incident comm) also interfaces to allow better communication with other resources.

Al Brewer - LACOFD – Tower classes being planned for “overlapping” recruit towers. Has a new female / civilian “Chief Officer”.  Investigating a serious accident incident where a crew fell through a roof and a helicopter hard landing near whittier hills during the recent fire in Montebello.

ScottQuinn – LAFD – Relating he was listening to the Mission Incident while driving in. Has a new class of recruits 43 that graduated yesterday. They remain 28 companies down, expect more hiring as they have an increased budget this year. Had an incident with a recruit that suffered the RHABDOMYOLOSIS illness.

Live fire program is still off pending development of new standards / controls. Lots of new construction projects underway in LA.

Ells – LAFD – Had several guys transported from Stations to local hospitals for chest pain. One was fairly minor, but one 31 year old had a serious heart condition –  took to a “not the closest” hospital at the request of the patient. Ells related it would be best to always follow the established operational standards when staff has emergency situations involving “our own” as the firefighter was in very serious condition on arrival at the emergency room.  Discussed “poaching” across jurisdictional lines.  Related a recent fire incident with trapped occupants.

SAFER : ORCO Fire Authority – next meeting, Dues will be solicited to support committee travel / participation and business costs (Website etc.)

LAFD Scott Quinn

All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

Meeting Adjourned , next meeting September 18th, 2015 at Orange County Fire Authority.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Scott Estrada – Vice President   FIRE ETC

Estrada@fire-etc.com

2190 Main Street

San Diego, CA 92113

Phone (619) 525-7286

Cell (619) 4033442

www.fire-etc.com

 

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Jon Nelson - CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

jnelson@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(509) 994-7055

www.lionprotects.com

 

Gabriel Flores-  Regional Sales Manager, Western U.S. - SEKO Dosing Systems Corp.

gflores@sekousa.com

1103 Branagan Drive

Bristol, PA19007

Phone (866) 740-7623

www.sekousa>com

 

Scott Mackenzie- Business Development Manager-  STEDFAST USA Inc.

smackenzie@stedfast.com

Cell (602) 549-5817

Toll Free (888) 673-8841

6989 West Grovers Ave.

Glendale, AZ 85308

www.stedfast.com

 

Gabriel Flores- Chemical & Dosing Systems Consultant-  AFChemical

Gtfloresjr2@gmail.com

(209) 840-3860

1570 East F Street-  Suite A-156

Oakdale, CA95361

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - August 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 21, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder

Carlsbad Fire Department

Safety Training Center

5750 Orion Way,

Carlsbad, CA

Mike Davis – Fire Chief

 

0940    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to FIRE ETC for breakfast hospitality, and Lion -  AllStar for lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Deputy Chief Mike Lopez who welcomed SAFER to Carlsbad and lead the flag salute and moment of silence. Chief Lopez briefed the attendees on the “Safety Training Center” and some of the particulars of the Carlsbad Fire Department. (11000 calls a year / 85% medical, 6 stations, 83 sworn personnel). Chief Lopez related the training facility cost $14 million dollars to build and it’s made the Carlsbad firefighters, police and public employees better.

Chief Lopez thanked the fire service attendees for their service and the venders for their contribution to firefighter safety through PPE improvement(s) and safety product development and support.

Chief Lopez congratulated Deputy Chief Jeff Wilkerson (MCP) on his retirement and thanked him for 38 years of service to the fire service. The group joined with a standing ovation to Chief Wilkerson. 

Chief Lopez introduced Battalion Chief Jeff Chumbley who would present the program.

Program:

Poinsettia Fire – July 14, 2014

                        Battalion Chief  Jeff Chumbley –  Carlsbad  Fire Department

On May 14, 2014, at approximately 10:34 am, the Poinsettia Fire ignited in Carlsbad burning nearly 400 acres and destroyed several structures. BC Chumbley related the initial actions and resource profile utilized on the incident. He described how other active incidents in the region impacted this incident and how other area command officers (including area Fire Chiefs) assisted in the management of the incident. He reviewed the Incident Organizational Chart and discussed lessoned learned for future incidents including assigning a Safety Officer sooner in the incident. Chief Chumbley discussed the concepts of “Fire Front Following”, “Anchor and Hold” and “Transitional Attack” tactics as they are employed on “urban Interface” incidents. He related the difficulty with communications as the incident grew – necessity to move to dedicated frequencies and radio systems (800Mhz vs. VHF). Chief Lopez discussed the importance of developing FMAG application and support documentation to support the financial dimensions of these types of incidents. Incident was an LAR (Local Area Resource) fire so the usual support that occurs with other large incidents that enjoy support of the various “IMT’s (Incident Management Team(s) was not available / applicable.

A Commercial Fire (Sound-Eklin) occurred during this UI fire and the responding firefighters saved the companies “data” from their building by removing the computers / records which ultimately saved the company’s future.    

Critical Factors:

  1. 2% fine fuel moisture

  2. 100% Probability of flame capture

  3. 446 Chains(29,436 feet) / hour

  4. 5.58 MPH

Lessons learned:

  1. Red Flag conditions / Wildland Response

  2. Leader’s intent vs. Independent action.

  3. FD/PD Unified Command

  4. Equipment prepared for Urban Interface / Wildland response

  5. Power lines SDG&E

  6. Air Support – VLAT / Air Attack / Rotor and fixed Wing

  7. Full CDF Wildland Response

  8. “No Divert” on air assets when lives are at risk

  9.  Driving into heavy smoke

  10. Position Qualification’s (STL / Engine Boss / DIVS)

  11. Limited resources due to other active incidents

  12. Local resource depletion (Vista Fire)

  13. EOC Opened:

  1. Logistics Support

  2. Base Campo Support

  3. PIO

  4. Mapping

  5. IAP

  1. Base Camp:

  1. Releasing Resources

  2. Relief of Existing crews

  3. Contingency plans for incident resource needs

  1. Salvage and Overhaul of personal effects of residents / businesses

Powerpoint:

Videos:

 

Business Meeting:

11:40

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent. Scott Quin related LAFD is averaging 1 injury / month. He recommends a heat “Risk Assessment” be included in your departments Risk Documents. Ells related the person responsible for reporting to OSHA needs to be notified in a timely manner to meet the 24 hour reporting requirement and avoid large penalties. LACofd related the death of a Lifeguard who died while pool testing.

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD - began discussing NFPA 1977 regarding wildland helmets, destructive testing and vented helmets, fire shelter industry variances in materials, designs and weight. (15-18 options available). Discussed the SCAM document (NFPA 1854)  for wildland PPE and the pro’s and con’s (single layering)., Cleaning/Contaminates: Biological and Chemical with regards to disinfection/cleaning. Update on Fire Protection Research Foundation (funding, and PPE Cleaning)

DRD. Drag Rescue Device Survey report for Public Input. Chemical List, revision/update list regarding addition/deletion and hydraulic fluid(s) (Phosphors ester) effects on moisture barriers. Survey produced well over 1700 responses and mobile ISP’s Carbon Monoxide Study for firefighters for low level, long term effects and high levels in short term.  UCLA and St Joseph Hospital to study effects regarding respiratory, cardiac, stroke, and deep vein thrombosis related to CO exposure.

LACoFD is now transitioning to single layer wildland PPE, webgear being redesigned with FR material by Mystery Ranch Manufacturing. Hydration standard is being developed for consideration as a Health and Safety mandate , 1854 SCAM Doc for wildland. New STIHL chainsaws are being developed with injection instead of chainsaw. “Motomix” comes pre-mixed for 2-cycle fuel. Has better characteristics than the gasoline being proposed for CA (Ethanol additives). Gloves being studied for protective characteristics. When fire room is pressurized many contaminates enter our crews bodies through their skin via porous PPE at hood, neck, wrists and around the waist. A new moisture barrier is being developed to better isolate our crews from toxins at those locations.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. Ells related LAFD took possession of several KME triples that have selected NFPA standard deficits. Narrow captains seat area, rough engine cowling etc. The new units weren’t ordered with exhaust that connects to PlyMoVent Exhaust removal systems. 

Vendor update - Lazaro Martinez discussed the recent sales activity and three dimensional glove product.

Technology:

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report. Approximately $2400 in reserves. Discussed recent dues contributions from website.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Scott - Ventura County: Discussed “Peck Fire” MTZ (Multiple Threat Zone) Vehicle over the side starting a brush fire. LACofd, LAFD and Ventura County responded with Copter 19. Victim crawled into a tunnel / pipe under the freeway till fire burned over. OSHA experience: a tree trimmer death caused by palm fronds caused the agency to make a Cal-OSHA notification. Related an injury to a crew member while climbing over a fence with a ground ladder that resulted in serious leg fracture. Mission Incident investigation has made seven arrests relating to illegal storage of hazardous materials. Two rigs were exposed to hazardous chemicals and will not be cleaned / sanitized to allow return to service.

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Introduced a new specialist (Gabriel Flores) who knows the pump systems used in extractor washing machines. Related California is drafting a standard based on the provisions in NFPA 1851 as Texas has done. Will likely impact budget requirements for PPE going forward.   

San Diego City

Steve Lloyd – Torrance

Santa Barabara – Ed  

Peggy Curtice – Fire-Dex – Related a three dimensional glove

Russ Snyder ORCO Fire – Just Promoted 19 engineers, new academy class graduating next week. Expecing a rash of Santa Ana Guys to retire next year which will necessitate additional hiring.

Gabriel Flores – Pump expert that supports 1851 extractor units

Scott McKensy – Steadfast moisture technologies – Working with local depts. To develop/ support hoods etc.

Andy Spear Carlsbad FD – Thanked SAFER for coming to Carlsbad Safety Trng Cntr, 9 guys on probation, have numerous members assigned to incidents statewide. FS remodel under way.

John Nelson – Lion Uniforms – Related they have a tri-certified pant, will be promoting a multi bio uniform in the near future

Michele – Lion Related they’re promoting a new glove.

Dick Weise – LACoFD – Related they will be starting a recruit class next month. Related KME lost the FDNY contract and is spreading the loss across all future sales. LACoFD will be going out to bid on future apparatus purchases.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment – Related a project to have “pods” designed for specific risks (mass casualty, chem / bio) distributed throughout the area/region/ state. Could be rapidly deployed to specific incidents with need upon request.

Stuart – SCOTT Safety – Introduced “Rescue belt” feature now available on SCOTT SCBA’s. Has a life safety rated belt strap. Related SCOTT bought ISG Infra-red cameras which will be the camera they develop and market in-house. Introduced a blue-tooth interfaced intercom for “crew com” and voice amplification. Radio (Incident comm) also interfaces to allow better communication with other resources.

Al Brewer - LACOFD – Tower classes being planned for “overlapping” recruit towers. Has a new female / civilian “Chief Officer”.  Investigating a serious accident incident where a crew fell through a roof and a helicopter hard landing near whittier hills during the recent fire in Montebello.

ScottQuinn – LAFD – Relating he was listening to the Mission Incident while driving in. Has a new class of recruits 43 that graduated yesterday. They remain 28 companies down, expect more hiring as they have an increased budget this year. Had an incident with a recruit that suffered the RHABDOMYOLOSIS illness.

Live fire program is still off pending development of new standards / controls. Lots of new construction projects underway in LA.

Ells – LAFD – Had several guys transported from Stations to local hospitals for chest pain. One was fairly minor, but one 31 year old had a serious heart condition –  took to a “not the closest” hospital at the request of the patient. Ells related it would be best to always follow the established operational standards when staff has emergency situations involving “our own” as the firefighter was in very serious condition on arrival at the emergency room.  Discussed “poaching” across jurisdictional lines.  Related a recent fire incident with trapped occupants.

SAFER : ORCO Fire Authority – next meeting, Dues will be solicited to support committee travel / participation and business costs (Website etc.)

LAFD Scott Quinn

All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

Meeting Adjourned , next meeting September 18th, 2015 at Orange County Fire Authority.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Scott Estrada – Vice President   FIRE ETC

Estrada@fire-etc.com

2190 Main Street

San Diego, CA 92113

Phone (619) 525-7286

Cell (619) 4033442

www.fire-etc.com

 

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Jon Nelson - CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

jnelson@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(509) 994-7055

www.lionprotects.com

 

Gabriel Flores-  Regional Sales Manager, Western U.S. - SEKO Dosing Systems Corp.

gflores@sekousa.com

1103 Branagan Drive

Bristol, PA19007

Phone (866) 740-7623

www.sekousa>com

 

Scott Mackenzie- Business Development Manager-  STEDFAST USA Inc.

smackenzie@stedfast.com

Cell (602) 549-5817

Toll Free (888) 673-8841

6989 West Grovers Ave.

Glendale, AZ 85308

www.stedfast.com

 

Gabriel Flores- Chemical & Dosing Systems Consultant-  AFChemical

Gtfloresjr2@gmail.com

(209) 840-3860

1570 East F Street-  Suite A-156

Oakdale, CA95361

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes - July 2015

Meeting Minutes Meeting Date: SAFER Board Attendees: List

THANK YOU TO OUR LOCATION AND HOST SPONSORS THAT MADE THIS MONTH'S SAFER MEETING POSSIBLE: Meeting Location/Sponsor: Hospitality Sponsor:


09h45 Meeting called to order - President Ells Fortman Main Discussion Topic: Notes Here
10h30 Business Meeting: Notes Here 11h00 Recess to Attending Vendors
11h30 Round Table Session: Notes Here 12h10 Meeting Adjourned - Board meeting following
Vendors / Manufacturers attending: Please List

Safer Monthly Meeting - July 2015

SAFER  Meeting Minutes

July 17, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, Immediate Past President Duran, Seely, Sposato, Hudson,  Lloyd  

AllStar Fire Equipment

0955    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to AllStar for hospitality

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Joe Sposato who welcomed SAFER to AllStar and led the flag salute and moment of silence. Joe related the restroom locations and particulars of the meeting venue.

Email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Program:                         “Diesel Particulate Filter Regeneration”

            Capt.  Tim Mcintyre LACoFD / Training Division – Los Angeles County Fire Department

Handouts - PowerPoint Available

           

Business Meeting 7/17/2015:

Committee Reports:

OSHA:  Scott Hudson – Hemet (Retired) : CalOSHA advisory board is developing “Tunnel Safety / Emergency Response  Standard” for future underground operations. FEMA teams are undergoing training at the national level. New standard will likely impact equipment requirements unique to tunnel operations.  OSHA is increasing staffing to better serve their mission. CalOSHA is currently understaffed and recently advised they only want to have “serious” cases requiring hospitalization. Refer to reporting requirements for guidance.

Financial: Lloyd – $2600 in C.U. account.  Steve will continue email blasts to provide meeting info to attendees.

PPE -  Dick Weise (NFPA Committee Member): Absent  today.

Apparatus:  Tim Mcintyre covered the 2012 EPA Diesel Particulate Filtration standard and Detroit Diesel system in the meetings presentation.

Technology –Pres.  Website: New Website is up and operating but still evolving to better meet our needs. Expecting improvements this month.

 

Round Table:  10:20

Rick (Ventura Co.) Fire Express US / High Pressure Water delivery equipment using new technology nozzles. Will save back injuries, suppress fires with less water, faster knock down.

Andy with Fire Express. Related their training out-reach program to various fire agencies. Touched on water savings potential.

Scoot Hudson – Hemet FD (retired) – Hemet will remain an independent “City” fire department after the (new) city council cancelled the migration to CalFire.

Scott - Ventura Federal FF’s – Commented on new ARF rigs they have received. He works on San Nicolas Island.

Lazaro Martinez - AllStar – Reps much of So Cal. Has noticed an uptick in equipment sales, many new guys going through hiring – recruit training. Discussed the use of class A foam in many agencies. Related many agencies no longer use class B foam. AllStar is distributor of Class A foam.

Scott Perigow –  UniMac Extractors.

Best Way laundry systems.

Joe Sposato – AllStar Fre Equipment – Vender Liason : welcomed new venders, discussed the grants being published weekly to aid agencies in equipment purchases. Related Pasadena just updated their SCBA’s using grant funding. Fire Apparatus are also beginning to be purchased by many agencies as the economy picks up.

Steve Lloyd Torrance FD (retired) – Torrance 911 “Never Forget” Patch / sponsoring a NYFD station with a $100.00 donation.

Tony Duran LACoFD – HazMat Coordinator. New class may begin in August.

Audnce Esponsoa ; Ventura Co Fire

Dan Will LAFD – Engineer , Manufacturing a ratcheting style hydrant wrench. Is a safer way of opening hydrants than old wrenches. These may save $80-100,000 per back injury requiring surgery.  Better ergo dynamics are the key to quicker / safer opening of hydrant valves.

Tim Mcintyre LACoFD – Currently down 300 plus personnel. Will be hiring and starting a recruit tower. Currently backgrounding 50 and sizing the recruits. KME raised prices on new rigs – likely will not buy any more. Discussed recent bids for new trucks and engines – related their experiacnes in the market place.

Ed Carey Santa Barbara Co. (Retired) - Eric Petersen is new Chief from within. Related many staff / admin changes within the agency.  Recently graduated a new class of recruits.

Frank Uran – Related Quala-tel Communication new products – Concealed radio equipment for un-marked vehicles.

Ells Fortman BC with LAFD – Related the attendance in the FF Olympics in LA was low. LAFD has two classes running now has budgeting for 5 more classes. Recently completed some Capt 1 to Capt 2 promotions.  Is now having a nurse practitioner riding on certain shifts / calls (10 hour shifts). Buying apparatus, will be taking delivery of some KME units.

 Next months (August) meeting will be hosted by Carlsbad Fire, ORCO the month after. 

Requests support of Special Olympics – his battalion is sponsoring several athletes.

Recess to venders: 11:00

 

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Adjourned at 1210 hours

“Taco Man” Lunch hosted by AllStar Fire Equipment – Joe Sposado.

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Vender Attendees:

Frank Uram - Quala-tel Communication

www.qualatel.com

(858)577-2900

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

           

 

Safer Monthly Meeting - June 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

June 19, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Immediate Past President Duran, Seely, Sposato, Lloyd ,Hudson, Quinn, Past President Dolan  

Los Angeles City Fire Department

Hotchkins Training Center

0945    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to UniMac – Bestway Laundry Solutions (snacks and lunch) for hospitality

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Deputy Chief Joe Castro who welcomed SAFER to LAFD and lead the flag salute and moment of silence. Chief Castro related his experiences that “drove home” the importance of effective PPE in modern firefighting. He related a fire in the Hollywood Hills that led to a roof team member falling through a roof into a fully involved attic. The member was wearing “newer” turnouts as a rookie firefighter that provided fairly good PPE that is well maintained and properly donned.   

Program:       

                        Deputy Chief Castro – Operations Bureau – Los Angeles Fire Department

“Notable Large Incidents”:

1)      Condos under construction (Approx 1 Million Sq. Ft.) exposing several high rise exposures. Incident management strategies was discussed including the “after-on” efforts to provide assistance to tenants of adjacent buildings.

 

2)      Venice Fire (a storage facility) – An example of a fire that had an extended “burn time” that may need a change in tactics over time. Related the tendency to throw additional resources into the incident when “initial incident tactics” aren’t meeting production / progress expectations. He attributed this observation to Chief Alan Brunacini (Phoenix Fire Dept. – Retired) who relates the importance of periodic evaluation of current tactics as incidents evolve and to initiate timely strategic / tactical adjustments.

 

 

3)      Chatsworth Train Accident – Metrolink vs. Freight Train – The concept of resource allocation on major incidents and the need to address critical elements of the incident while maintaining a reasonable risk level. Chief Castro related the unique rescue methods required to locate and extricate victims from this major entrapment incident.

 

4)      Port of Los Angeles Wharf Fire 9/22/14 – Contrasted “our” Incident Objectives vs. the objectives of a large entity like the port or the airport. Related the impact of “closing the port” or “shutting down the airport” has on the important operation of the theses unique locations. Explained the importance of “continuity of operation” in these critical infrastructures / manufacturing occupancies. Documentary photos and video of the firefighting operation were displayed and explained by Chief Castro.  The lengthy firefight and the nature of the burning wharf material (creosote impregnated wood structural materials) exposed the crews to extreme smoke / toxic by-products. Related the role of the Incident Safety Officer on this and other incidents was suggested by Chief Castro as being an evolving part of Incident Management, adding there needs to be broader acceptance of difficult  safety restrictions in incidents were “risks” are non-life-safety objectives.

 

 

Discussed the concept of “Quantitative Decomposition” during fire scenarios and the over-haul process - specifically the risk to fire crews that are involved in this work. 

 

Chief Castro thanked the SAFER group for the commitment to Firefighter Safety over the years and into the future. 

 

Business Meeting:

11:00

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson discussed changes in OSHA regulations and oversight. Fatalities are on the rise in California since 2009. Heat illnesses are being scrutinized in the fire service. He recommended that “your” Heat Illness written policy should be on your fire apparatus. Discussion continued regarding: Oil refinery Bill is in the works and OSHA is increasing inspections. Future proposals are for Battery storage, charging and handling; crane operation standard, firefighter glove has been finalized, the Standards Board seats are nearly all vacant positions and that reduction in the fine schedule for compliance is being rewritten.

 

NFPA update: Dick Weise began discussing NFPA 1977 regarding wildland helmets, destructive testing and vented helmets, fire shelter industry variances in materials, designs and weight. (18-19 options available). Discussed the  SCAM document for wildland PPE and the pro’s and con’s (single layering). Discussion continued regarding Ethanol additive in fuel and 2 cycle engines, NFPA 1971/1851, Firefighting hoods and new considerations to design, USAF Risk Assessment regarding structural and proximity PPE’s, sizing standard for 2 and 3 dimensional gloves. Cleaning/Contaminates. Biological and Chemical with regards to disinfection/cleaning. Update on Fire Protection Research Foundation (funding, and PPE Cleaning)

DRD. Drag Rescue Device Survey report for Public Input. Chemical List, revision/update list regarding addition/deletion.hydraulic Fluids response to moisture barriers. Survey produce well over 1700 responses and mobile ISP’s Carbon Monoxide Study for firefighters for low level, long term effects and high levels in short term.  UCLA and St Joseph Hospital to study effects regarding respiratory, cardiac, stroke, and deep vein thrombosis related on exposure.

 

Apparatus update: Tim McIntyre discussed: KME now has FDNY contract. Prices are rising on their apparatus. Costing LACoFD an additional $80k per type I pumper. Expect higher prices from them. LACoFD current bid for 12 pumpers is going back out.  Pierce may be an option. Pierce has a new aerial out. 107' aerial ladder that is 750b lighter than their previous 105'. Brush season is upon us. Get your type III's ready. LACoFD has currently 2 of our 5 in the shops, so were unable to respond to San Bernadino this past week. LACoFD will be having our OES type III class at Del Valle TC again soon. Contact me if you have anyone interested in attending.  If you receive OES rigs, be aware of their rules for use & training.

 

Vendor update: Joe Sposato discussed the recent FDIC show and that it is a must attend event and that it would be good to have a greater west coast presence. Drones are going to be part of our emergency operations potentially by both agency and public use. The purchase and production of fire apparatus declined starting in 2009 and is starting trend up again, hesitancy to commit by manufactures exists.

 

Technology: Jan Stenc discussed that the website (SAFER.org) is up and running with content to come with connection to Facebook and e-mail addresses are coming

 

 Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report. “have some need more” request for dues will soon go out. Approximately $2400 in reserves.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

 

LACoFD Tony Duran discussed recent HazMat training and a new quick reference chart modeled after the periodic table.

LACoFD Tim McIntyre discussed: LACoFD will hopefully have a recruit class starting in September 2015.  Last Saturday we had 100 candidates arrive at the HQTC for uniform & turnout fitting.  Vendors were selected by Human Resources and it was not put out to bid.  Boot vendor failed to show. LACoFD Training Services Section will soon be designing 5 new "Training Engines/Pumpers" that will be used for training only.  They will not be outfitted to ever go into service in the field.

 

LAFD Scott Quinn provided and update regarding Cal/OSHA process for LAFD case, drill tower status.

 

All venders provided current matters regarding their product lines and services.

Meeting Adjourned , next meeting July 17th, 2015 at AllStar Fire Equipment.

           

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                       

 

Safer Monthly Meeting - April 2015

Meeting Minutes

Meeting Date : April 17, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Immediate Past President Duran, Seely, Sposato, Gurrola, Snyder, Quinn, Past President Dolan  

 

THANK YOU TO OUR LOCATION AND HOST SPONSORS THAT MADE THIS MONTH'S SAFER MEETING POSSIBLE:

Meeting Location/Sponsor: Santa Monica Fire – Santa Monica Public Library, 601 Santa Monica Blvd., Santa Monica CA., 90401

Hospitality Sponsor: SAFER


0945    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Chief Clemo who welcomed SAFER to Santa Monica,  briefing the group on recent  development activity in City of Santa Monica and leading the flag salute and moment of silence.

Pres. Fortman - Discussed the benefits of “networking opportunities” such as SAFER and related his experience with developing the LAFD PPE plan / policies with the help of vendors.

New email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc. to be developed

Program:        Department Health and Safety Officer Responsibilities

                        Capt. Scott Quinn / Safety Coordinator – Los Angeles Fire Department

SCOTT.QUINN@LACITY.ORG  / (231) 434-1380

Handouts - PowerPoint Available

Capt. Tony Duran – LACoFD and Capt. Al Brewer related CalOSHA experiences in support of the discussion / presentation. General discussion of key points and past experience of attending SAFER members followed.


Business Meeting 4/17/2015:

Committee Reports:

OSHA:  Discussed in program.

Financial: Lloyd  –  Absent

PPE -  Dick Weise (NFPA Committee Member):

1977 – Wildland Fire Shelter designs with various fabrics being tested in Missoula, including web-gear (no melt no drip).

Single Layer work / studies continue.

Stihl chainsaws now have an anti-bucking feature and have fuel injection feature on new saw line. Stihl is working with working with wildland community to improve their saws for the fire service.

Apparatus:

Vendors: Joe Sposato - AllStar – Joe thanked the attending vendors who are in attendance, related the FDIC (next week) is where new development’s in equipment are previewed. 

Technology - Website: New Website is up and operating. Pres. Ells related some of the features available and those that will be forthcoming. Thanks to Jan Stenc (Operations, SC Products/Solutions Safety) for his work in developing the website.

Recess to vendors: 11:00


Round Table Session:  11:30

Firefighter’s First CU: Previewed the services available to FFCU, Related 80 year history. 1.99% for new or used vehicles are now available. Scholarships, kid’s accounts are now offered to the membership.

Jim Dolan, Past SAFER President, LAFD Retired: Jim will be coming to future meetings with the Friday schedule.

Stuart Scott - Safety: ISG now owned by SCOTT Safety, Works out of AllStar.

Joe Sposado – AllStar: Now has a large amount of new brush gear available, new Phoenix helmets now available, new evolution glove available – some specially built for Training use. Recommended the new website.

Russ Snyder ORCO: New academy classes starting. 5 new KME rigs coming.

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety: Discussed the NFPA 1851 program as it relates to CalOSHA and other OSHA state programs and accident / illness incidents. Related the need to implement the central tenants of the standard and work towards full compliance in the future as a matter of policy.

Kelly Whitt – Workrite Uniforms: Related several new products their carrying – Gloves and single layer wildland ensembles.

Tom Foley - Fabric Products: Related the development of improved PPE fabrics, discussed some of the features they’re developing for the future.

Eric Williams 3M: Manufacture of retro-reflective products. Related new improvements in their product line.

All Brewer - LACoFD Safety Officer: New entrance exams proceeding, current process under investigation. LARICs project antennae stopped on county stations.

Tim Mcintyre LACoFD: Apparatus Committee, inspecting new pumpers for Catalina Island, Related agency replacement policy for apparatus: rotation of 10 pumpers and 2 trucks / yr.

Dick Weise LACoFD: Fire Wardens meeting next month in Irvine. Several presentations on incidents will be highlighted.

Scott Quinn LAFD: Related current recruit classes, discussed the documentation of all training program elements. LAFD Is moving towards single layer concept.

Tony Duran - Past President - LACoFD HazMat: Related recent training and drill projects with other agency HazMat resources in the region. Training projects included regional HazMat resouces: CST’s, Montclair Colleges, VNC other agencies.

Mike Wizenberg Ventura County: Testing and recruit academy updates. Discussed some elements with the recruiting process: limited sign-up timelines, random selection strategies. Top portion of Captains list are attending a “Captains Academy” with block testing as part of a promotional track. Final promotional list is developed from the ratings each participant receives during the “academy”.The purpose is to produce a well-rounded company officer.

Keith Gurrola VNC (Retired): Related recent promotions in the agency. Working on May meeting topic – Ventura City offered to cover if needed.

John Petuoglu – Hughes Energy Corp

Jan Stenc – Operations, SC Products (Solutions Safety) -  Working on our website

Kirk Owen – Veridian Fire Protective Gear :Discussed role at Veridian.

Randy Synstad and Steve Hageria - Western States Fire: Fire Equipment Sales. Based in Arizona. New corporate reorganization opens opportunities in California and SAFER.

 

Adjourned at 1210 hours – Board meeting following


 Vendors / Manufacturers attending:

Jan Stenc – Operations, SC Products/Solutions Safety (makers of CitroSqueeze PPE Cleaner)

+1 (714) 460-8626 ext 5

www.solutionssafety.com 

 

Randy Synstad – Fire Protection Specialist, Western States Fire Equipment

(602) 538-3846

www.WSFireEquip.com

RSynstad@WSFireEquip.com

 

Steve Hageria – Fire Protection Specialist, Western States Fire Equipment

(480) 278-2697

www.WSFireEquip.com

SHageria@WSFireEquip.com

 

Erik Williams – Senior Account Representative, 3M Corp.

(714)262-5189

www.3m.com

ewilliams@mmm.com

 

Kirk H. Owen – Regional Sales Manager, VERIDIAN Fire Protective Gear

(712) 260-3547

www.veridian.net

kirk@veridian.net

 

John Petuoglu – Managing Director, HUGHES Energy Corp.

(805)524-2400

(805) 223-5945

www.hughescorp.org

john@hughescorp.org

 

Frank Uram - Quala-tel Communication

www.qualatel.com

(858)577-2900

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com 

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Kelly Whitt , Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniforms

(909) 289-5775

www.workrite.com

kwhitt@workrite.com                

 

SAFER Annual Board Meeting - December 2014

Meeting Date : December 13, 2014
Location : All Star Corporate Offices

Board Members present: President Duran, Weise, Fortman, Quinn, Sposato, Wilkerson, Lloyd, FF Aimin Alton, VCFD - Guest

Business Meeting:

0900 President Duran opened annual board meeting:

A. Duran opened with the continued discussion of Thursday versus Friday meetings. Duran stated he has been asking on several occasions whether the day change was working or not and getting lukewarm and mixed reactions. He stated that the loss of key members, like PP Jim Dolan, was enough of an argument for Duran to request the meeting day be changed back. Having no opposition, a motion was made and seconded to move the meetings back to the third Friday of each month. Following the passing of the motion, the board responded with a rousing applause.

B. Schedule for 2015 Meetings: January 16 LACoFD February 20 NLV/Clark County - need to confirm (Scott Schuster) March TBD AFC, Phoenix, NV April 17 DDL Traffic/Chino - need to confirm May 15 Ventura City/County (CA Lou Manzano/DC K Gurrola) June 19 LAFD - confirmed (CA Scott Quinn) July 17 All Star - confirmed August 21 Pierce/KME? - need to confirm September 18 OCFA - need to confirm (Russ Snider) October 16 Carlsbad ? - need to confirm November 20 LN Curtis - need to confirm December 18 SFS - confirmed

C. Overhead request for new topics made to all members - ongoing.

D. FF Aimin Alton made a presentation to the board regarding the creation (or further development) of a subcommittee on "Emerging Technology" in the Fire Service. FF Alton explained that Ventura County FD is exploring the many ways technology is expanding the reach of the fire service. The proposal was made to create a blog site on the SAFER website where individuals can access information and pose questions on any aspect of technology (RPV/drones, communications, computers, software, etc.) The blogs will be monitored for appropriate/acceptable comments (language) with varying degrees of security depending on a person's membership to SAFER (full members gain all access while visitors may only be able to view comment threads). FF Alton stated they have access to high school students from a talented school of technology where the students must serve 100 hours of community service prior to graduation. These students are very knowledgeable on the ways of computer technology and website control. They would be placed into contact with the SAFER web master for coordination in setting up the system. A motion was made to further research this proposal with no commitment at this time. The motion was seconded and approved by a unanimous vote.

E. Elections

2015-2016 OUT IN President - Duran Ellsworth Fortman (LAFD) V.P. - Fortman Dick Weise (LACoFD) Secretary - Seeley Chuck Seeley (DFD, Ret.) BM - PP Gurrola Keith Gurrola (VCFD, Ret.) BM - Hudson Scott Hudson (HFD, Ret.) BM - Sawyer Rick Griggs (CAL_FIRE) BM - Weise Scott Quinn (LAFD) BM - Obermeier Russ Snider (OCFA) BM - Raganold Marvin Chang (LBFD - proposed) Mat large - Curry Vacant IPP - Gurrola Tony Duran (LACoFD)

2014-2015 Treasurer - Steve Lloyd (TFD, Ret.) Communication (formerly Publisher) - Vacant BM - Peurifoy/Lucas Spellman (Dave vacating his position) (RFD, Ret.) BM - Shaun Malone (NLVFD) BM - Ed Carey (SBFD, Ret.) BM - Wilkerson (CPFD) BM - Scott Schuster (NVLFD) BM - Bruce Vanderhorst (RFD) Vendor Liaison - Joe Sposato (All Star Fire Equipment, Inc) WEB Master - Josh Augustine

F. Revamp Certificate

Duran voiced an observation for the regeneration of certificates for hosting agencies and vendor members. He mentioned noticing past certificates at various vendors that were of a different design than that of the certificate given to the presenters. Lloyd and Sposato reminded the board that a special certificate was created and presented to vendor members for display at their booths during trade shows. Lloyd stated he had the template for the other certificate versions. He also recommended we could frame the certificate in a wood frame for presentation to the vendor members and others.

G. A recommendation was made to create more robust ads, advertise in department publications like "Straight Streams" (LACoFD) and "The Grapevine" (LAFD), as well as Firehouse World and other trade shows. To also add link on flyers to a map to the venue, SAFER website, host's website, etc.

H. Discussion of the outgoing president gift. Sposato stated that had always been the responsibility of the incoming president and paid for by SAFER. This created further discussion for the reinstatement of dues. The current balances are approximately $2549.87 with an additional $1456 in PayPal accounts. The major expense currently is the travel for NFPA representation. This ignited further discussion by Sposato that SAFER should be "run like a business", that any expenses should be submitted to the treasurer for reimbursement. Duran mentioned how all expenses during his tenure were provided out of pocket (printer ink, certificate blanks, etc.) Sposato stated this should not occur.

The meeting was adjourned at approximately 1145 hours with lunch following.