SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - August 2017 - OCFA

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 18, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:    President Gurrola , VP Quinn,  Wilkerson,  Seely

Orange County Fire Authority Headquarters

0930    Meeting called to order – President Gurrola welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to ORCO Fire Authority for use of the facility and to Michelle Trout with LIONfor the morning hospitality.   

Russ Snyder Introduced A/C Dave Anderson who welcomed SAFER and related his appreciation for the group’s contribution to FF safety and health. He related the importance of today’s topic (Cancer) and how his agency has been impacted by this health problem. He added the agency just pushed out a new policy to mandate SCBA use from beginning to end at every fire. He related the “clean gear, clean air, clean body” initiative.

A/C Chief Brian Young added his appreciation for the coordination to SAFER and the venders aligned with the safety and health of today’s fire service. 

Committee Reports:

NFPA – Dick sent an email with his report – delivered by Scott Quinn:

1977 Standard is in public input, several issues related to “how clean is clean” to try to set a standard for cleaning.

1851 is being revised to incorporate changes that have been proposed from its public comment period.

1971 Soon to be released in the 4th quarter to incorporate changes to those parts of the PPE ensemble.  

Pres. Gurrola related he attended a PPE meeting that included a major change in PPE for ARFF personnel for “most” airports. The “silver” suits are being phased out to favor of 1971 PPE. The exception is for major airports like LAX etc. and military installations.

Moving website to Tracy Rabe, our new website manager to speed up and improve postings.

Safety and Training:

Pres related there are several shows coming up. ARFF , Cancer symposium in Phoenix is coming in September.

Wants to team up with TO’s to post various training opportunities.  

Russ introduced Jonathan Wilby - OCFA Risk Manager, who will deliver today’s program:

Program: “An Organizational Look at Cancer Awareness and Prevention”

Jonathan related his position as OCFA Risk Manager and explained his role as an advocate for agency health and safety. He related the cooperation of management and labor in the health and safety mission. He related the OCFA’s Cancer experience over the past five years.

(Insert PowerPoint here)

Changes Implemented to date:

• Sunscreen products at every station

• Second set of PPE

• Structural PPE selection, care, and maintenance to meet NFPA 1851 standards

• Rescue wipes used during post fire decontamination

• Respiratory protection program procedure

• SCBA use throughout suppression / overhaul

• PAPR use throughout investigations (Cache kept on Truck Companies)

Mentioned San Diego Cities program as a model program

Changes in Process:

• Educational component (cultural change)

• Standardized signage restricting turnouts from living and sleeping areas

• Post fire asbestos sampling and testing procedures

• Ice machine contaminate assessment

• Washer / extractors located in each battalion

Related asbestos contamination problem: PPE came back from their ISP with detectable levels of asbestos. They use LION Total Care ISP in Texas who has a proprietary process to clean PPE with asbestos. The department is using an industrial hygienist to verify test results to drive policy decisions.

Five Gas Monitors:

1. CO

2. VOC (look for zero VOC)

3. O2

4. Lower Expl limits

5. Upper Expl limits

B/C Scott Quinn answered what LAFD is doing regarding asbestos and related all the difficulties in establishing policy for agency wide use. Related you almost need to build a flow chart to follow based on specific contaminates.

Chief Gurrola related Ventura County relies on the station extractors for cleaning contaminated gear.

Discussion on placement / appropriateness of Station Extractors vrs centralized service center based cleaning strategies.

Question: (Wilkerson) How does OCFA handle brush gear (1877 gear)?. (Russ) They currently don’t see many brush sets coming through the service center. Related some guys wash their 1977 gear in stations or even at home. Attendees related there will be cleaning requirements included in the new 1977 standard.

Jonathan related Historically the “first-in company” stayed throughout he suppression – overhaul – investigation phases. “First in – First out” to return to quarters for showers and equipment decontamination efforts is a possible policy change towards firefighter health.

Jonathan demonstrated the various promotional materials the OCFA is using in support of these program changes: stickers, posters and a video. The in-house produced video was viewed and very well received by all.

Question (Russ) Are any agencies doing an exchange program for hoods? Fresno – the B/C’s have a bag of new hoods that they distribute “on-scene” and collect  contaminated units for decontamination . LAFD relate if you need a new hood you’ll get a new hood.

Pres. Gurrola related were hoping to develop a “blog” capability to continue and expand discussions on various subjects (like FF CA) within the website.

John Price related the IAFF programs being instituted to enhance the awareness and practices designed to reduce carcinogens. He related the Firefighters Cancer Support Network efforts to reach-out to Cancer Victims for support and to all fire service personnel for education and training.

Jim Plymovent related there are numerous Attorneys representing Firefighters in exposure cases. Discussed exhaust gas removal systems and their respective differences.

Roundtable:

Chief Gurrola – Fillmore FD -  Encourages members to report accidents / injuries to promote discussion and exchange of potential solutions.

Jeff Wilkerson - Camp Pendleton (Retired) – Reports Camp has been having fires. Ca Fire Museum is meeting with Irvine to request location

Russ Snyder OCFA – Thanks for attending, related the video was excellent and related the organization is starting a 52 man academy in Sept, another 50 thereafter, got numererous new apparatus. Related the trucks are overweight – working with committees to resolve. Second of 3 phases of “second set” PPE’s is nearing completion

Fillmorer Fire Sebaastion

Eric Higgins - Bestway Laundry – Related new hand scanner for use on extractors will be rolled out next week

B/C Scott Quinn - LAFD – Regional Safety Team is doing investigation of Kelly Wong LODD. LAFD is doing FRO training – Opioid problem is becoming a real problem – First Responders are having problems getting enough Narcan to service all the fentanyl OD’s. Additionally, personnel exposed to very small quantities of fentanyl can cause risks to their health.

Steve Hanks - Scott Safety – Reps West Coast and Hawaii – Scott has 2018 NFPA Packs are ready to ship waiting for official certification from NFPA.

Steve Harris – Plymovent

JP – Nothing to add

Louie Garcia - Western States Fire Equip – Showed new structure glove and related DPF is still an issue . Cops West is having a show in October 31-Nov 1 & 2  Palm Springs.

Kelly Witt - Workrite – Corporate was talking to fabric supplier of “Nomex” discussing the characteristics of the fabric as it relates to cleaning and performance in multi-certifications.

Sean Van Sluis - Santa Monica Fire – Enjoyed presentation, just took over the PPE role, is a member of their safety committee. Is organizing their PPE to lean towards “second set” program and will be going “single layer” for brush gear (1977). Gurrola: Should we be wearing our 1971 gear to T/C’s and risk absorption of petro-chem’s? Maybe come up with a “better Option” for simple T/C responses.

Tracy Rabe - LineGear Fire and Rescue Equipment – Been with them for 7 years, now have a catalog with gear they sell.

Tracy Is now managing our website to improve attendance and expand content and interaction. The enhancements should help both FD’s as well as member venders.

Chad Dicksins - Atwood-Prior – Reps Pelican Products

Tom Martin - Atwood-Prior – Discussed Level A, B, C PPE, has a number of products.

X Discussed the dual /Tri certification for “cover pant” as it affects our Cancer risk.

Steve Hoyle – Ca Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center – ORCO (Retired)  – Related the 1851 Standard was a direct off-shoot of the work SAFER produced. There have been updates since the original proposed standard. Museum organizers will be meeting with City of Irvine to discuss a location for the museum in the great park.

Melissa McGee / Doug Murphy – SoCal PPE - ISP “Intratech Certified” has pick-up and delivery service. They are located in San Diego near Coronado. She related the procedure to send contaminated PPE in for cleaning. 

Frank Uram - Qualatel Communications – Related the” ear pieces” on headsets / microphones get contaminated and should be replaced as some reasonable period. He relates he designs and installs radios and intercom systems in emergency vehicles.

Kirk Owens –  Veridian Fire Protective Gear (Retired Fire Chief & NFPA Committee Chair) – Related he is available to help support the group in technical matters. Discussed the asbestos issue and related the traditional approach was to dispose of anything exposed to asbestos, was interested in the cleaning procedure being used by OCFA. Related they will be releasing a hood with “Particulate Blocking” capabilities. Waiting for the updated 1971 standard. Several problems: Dual Certified, Tri-Certified – Vapor Protection feature costs you breathability and removes it from wildland certification. Related many of the Venders can provide training for agency decontamination techniques.

Robinson – Pelican Products – Relates they support many products for Fire Service. They have numerous lighting devices and power supplies for FD Use. Manufacture of numerous types of protective cases.

Keith Gurrola – Fillmore FD – Related the Fillmore FD budget has been set, their fire foundation golf tour was a success. He needs to purchase gear for 18 new recruits. Received a FEMA Safety Grant – will have three new paid Firefighter positions.

 They had a FF take his PPE in for alteration without authorization – he considers the incident a “near –miss” for his dept

** FF Memorial will be September 30th in Sacramento..

Los Osos Symposium on PPE (Vender Driven Event) was a good event with relavent information for the end users.

Santa Paula FD is merging with Ventura Co. FD. Much SPFD gear will be excess and will be available. They also have a Light / Air Trailer that will be available.

NEXT MEETING September 15th – Location and topic to be announced

San Diego – Behavioral Health – October

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)             

Agency / Co                              NAME                               PHONE #                                  EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)       Chuck Seely               (949) 492-7993                   firebiz@att.net

Air Exchange PLYMOVENT   Steve Harris           909-973-8211                steveh@airexchange.com

Air Exchange PLYMOVENT     Jim Cleary          909-720-7064                 jtc1@roadrunner.com

OCFA                                        Russ Snider                 714-573-6601                     russsnider@ocfa.org

Camp Pendleton(Retired)    Jeff Wilkerson         949-445-9512                   jwilker@cox.net

Qualatel                                   Frank Uram                 858-577-2900                furam@qualatel.com

Ca fire museum & safety learning center   stevehoyle949-496-5688       stbear@cox.net

Santa Monica Fire        Sean Van Sluis             949-702-3473                 sean.vansluis@smgov.net

OCFA                                 Jonathan Wilby         714-573-6832                       jonathanwilby@ocfa.org

Scott Safety                   Steve Hanks                858-226-7420                          sthanks@tycoint.com

  SOCAL PPE    DOUG MURPHY/melissa MAGEE   619-993-1163              murph@socalppe.com

WESTERN STATES FIRE EQUIP   LOUIE GARCIA   213-272-5680           lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Atwood-Prior          Tom Martin            909-264-4875                             tmartin@repagency.host

LION                              Michelle Trout                     480-225-1324                  mtrout@lionprotects.com

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment      Tracy Rabe    949-230-5610                  tracy@linegear.com

Veridian Fire Protective Gear    Kirk Owen       712-260-3547                        kirk@veridian.net

MES                              Lazaro Martinez               562-320-2385                       lmartinez@mesfire.com

MES                                    John Price                     562-212-6803                            jprice@mesfire.com

Bestway Laundry Solutions          Eric Higgins951-532-7700                        sales@bestwayls.com

CURTIS Tools For Heros            Ed Shabro          760-250-1180                        eshabro@lncurtis.com

fillmore fire poi         sebastian ramirez             805-2975214    sebastian ramirez@fillmorefire.com

Fillmore Fire Dept      Keith Gurrola         805-558-0932                          keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - July 2017

SAFER Meeting Minutes

July 21, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Past President Duran, VP Quinn,  Wilkerson,  Seely, Quinn, Vender Liaison Sposato

AllStar Fire Equipment

0940    Meeting called to order - Past President Tony Duran welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to AllStar Fire Equipment Company for use of the facility and  to Lion apparel and SCOTT Breathing Apparatus for the morning / lunch hospitality.   

Tony introduced B/C Scott Quinn LAFD, who will deliver today’s program:

Program: “Drive to Survive”

Related his experiences as Safety Officer and Litigation Officer. Related the program scheduled for last month (Behavioral Health) is very relevant to present day FD’s and will be rescheduled in the future.

B/C Quinn related LAFD practices (pre-trip, licencing and operators role / responsibilities) documentation. The issue of length of operation , relief policy, drivers health and distractions while driving are frequesnt issues brought up in court cases.

A PowerPoint presentation was shown that demonstrated the myriad of characteristics that make up safe driver / operator practices.

Regional Training Authority: LAFD is doing EVOC training (Computer simulation and hands on handling) may be available to RTA members.

Typical Accident litigation takes about three years and is a nightmare for all involved.

All new apparatus are equipped with a “Black Box” that collects data on the vehicles operation.

(Insert PowerPoint Here)

Orange County Fire Authority will host the August SAFER Meeting. The topic will be “An Organizational Look at Cancer- Awareness and Prevention” presented by OCFA / Risk Manager Jonathan Wilby.

Joe: working on getting improved access to website to post meeting notifications earlier

Committee Reports:

Scott Hudson – OSHA Updates: Hemet FD Retired. New standard for silica sand exposure adopted by FED OSHA, CalOSHA to (TWA is based on 4 hour window of exposure). Emergency Ops allows for 24 hour period for RESCUE. Need Training, Policies and practices in place. Will be released for enforcement later this year.

New standards for Storage batteries (for backup systems) has a requirement for training and operational policies. 

Indoor heat illness standard being developed by CalOSHA for implementation next year.

New “phone” notification standard for CalOSHA is being planned to clarify employers requirement(s) for timely notification of industrial accidents.

Heat-Illness injury minimum fine is $17,000.

Workplace violence reporting requirement is “in effect” but not widely known by employers.

Employee Evacuation Plan – One for each “risk” identified, standard being developed

New standards for chop saws, protective shrouds / guards is being developed for industrial applications.

SRIA- Independent review of proposed standards (SB 617).

Nat Safety Council rates CA a “C” on workplace safety.

NIOSH has a heat illness app for download.

CalOSHA Increasing penalies: Minor $7,000 to $10,000, serious increases to XXXX, resulting from Fed OSHA stating that CalOSHA is too linient.

Gender Toilets: State legislation required an amount of toilets available for the workplace

Zika carrying mosquitos have been identified in 11 Counties in CA.

New forklift standards for “non-lift” positioning.

Capt. Jordan relates it’s important for a liaison to accompany employees to hospital in insure medical staff doesn’t label illness as “heat illness / injury” instead of “heat exhaustion”.

Tony related if CalOSHA conducts an investigation for a specific issue they have heads on swivel as they conduct the inspection – EVERYTHING is under scrutiny.

Equipment:

Rosenbauer is conducting  “electric apparatus” testing.

Vender Liaison:

Thanks to the venders for attending and contributing to the SAFER Organization.

Technology:

Tony – Looking to improve web site, timely meeting notifications and enhanced content are several themes to be addressed.

Treasures Report: Tony for

$467.86 / $1,114.88 Checking

Expenses for NFPA membership and Dick Weise travel.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

RoundTable:

John Henderson Torrance

Jeff Wilkerson Camp Penaton Fire , All apparatus have cameras front, rear and inside to document apparatus operation , related seat belt enforcement and policy enforcement.

Steve Hoyle – ORCO retired, California Fire Museum.

Capt.Langer Vernon – Recently appointed as New Apparatus and Equipment Officer.

Curt Johnson – Tempest and Leader are now one company after a recent acquisition / merger.

John Price LACoFD Retired – Now MES representation, related “Attitude and Accelerator”

Jordan LACoFD –

Scott McLaren CalFIRE Riverside – Has finalized driving policy to meet modern traffic needs, added a second engine to T/C’s. CalFire Riverside has developed a check-list for traffic investigations. Agency has updated its EMS dispatching protocol’s (EMD). CalFire Riverside will be implementing a similar triage program for “Fire” responses in the future. Using code 2 response’s when appropriate to limit / reduce code 3 accidents.

Scott – Fillmore fire.

Chris Murdock – LACoFD Retired, Rio Hondo Fire Academy – Reminds that there is liability issues that can effct

Lim Clearly – Plymovent – Related he learns something at every SAFER meeting he attends. Company is doing a lot of conversions of older systems to newer product

Eric Higgins – BestWay Laundry systems – Has installed 10 systems this month.

Bill Ward – Pinical Bod – Has an order from Long Beach FD for a new upgraded POD unit that will accommodate aerial and nozzle testing needs. Water districts are interested in using their tanks (PODS) to save water when using testing

Louie Garcia Western States – Has new glove arriving, Ford Explorer’s have been identified as having a CO problem – Officers found with CO illness nationally. Found to be largely associated with modifications for Public Safety users.

Jack Koltaj - Ventura County – Crew reductions are occurring, island stations use JP5 for fuel

Russ Snider ORCO – Just graduated 24 “lateral” class, new engines,”quints” (some found to be overweight)

Tom Martin – Multi-line Manufactures Rep – Related some new HazMat app to better identify the proper PPE configuration for specific chemicals. Has new” Action Wipes”,  not a repackaging of baby wipes.  This wipe is specifically designed for active adults started in the outdoor sporting market. These wipes are designed to be used by persons “on line” for multiple days. Related they are showing a small washer for ppe. Kappler, wide range of chemical protective ppe:  The frontline 500 level A suit has a new larger non fog visor to increase visibility. A smart device app is available to generate risk assessment reports “ HazMatch”.  Turnout gear chem response overshot protects turnout gear from chemical contamination. Checkers ground level safety has hose ramps, electrical cabling ramps, wheel chocks speed bumps - Poly cribbing. Has Groves and single unit extractor 20 lbs. For turnout gear, hoods, woodland gear and are great for smaller departments and remote stations. 

Scott Hudson – Hemet Retired – City has passed a 1% tax to fund Police / Fire in the city. Has new B/C’s (1 from Grand Junction CO. ) Related the concept that code 3 driving is dangerous if you make it dangerous, but some accidents are simply unavoidable.

Davis Mul – Industrial Scientific – Related the CalOSHA “compliance” issues after an incident. He relates his job is to make sure the equipment is operating properly and to train the end user in it

Gevork Kazanchyan - LACo Risk Management – Working to implement the Workplace Violence Reporting standard. Working to define “work Place” definition (in the ambulance, in the facility etc.) and how they can comply “globally”.

Frank Orum – QualTel Communications – Discussed the various communications systems he installs / services: Headsets, wireless intercom and radio systems. 

Tony Duran LACoFD Retired – NH3 Training Institute – Teaches Industry and First Responders how to work with Anhydrous ammonia. He is planning dates for training Anaheim and Downey Fire Departments. Tony can facilitate training programs for NH3 operational training needs.

Scott Quinn – LAFD B/C – Budget approved for agency. Crews are working tons of OT, will be hiring more in the future. Related their recent LODD (Kelly Wong) and how the incident has impacted their operations. Department is cooperating with CalOSHA in the investigation to improve future firefighter safety.

Joe Sposado – AllStar – Related recent 4th place finish of the AllStar Porche in Utah. He related recent observations of people “texting” (leaving space – driving slow so as to text), (cars that drift the correct) these are people that are texting while driving. AllStar has won the contract with CalFire to supply them with SCOTT SCBA’s. They are switching from MSA SCBA’s. Particulate Hood for FF’s is now available that GORE Developed. Has particulate protection (99% effective) that is not vapor barrier. (see GORE online).Joe recommends writing your name on the front of the hood to insure proper donning pro-8cedures.

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)             

Agency / Co        NAME            PHONE #       EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)   Chuck Seely(949) 492-7993      firebiz@att.net

c alifornia fire museumsteve hoyle    9494965688       stbear@cox.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHJIM CLEAERY909-720-7064

Camp Pendleton Fire ret.  Jeff Wilkerson 949-830-087   jwilker@cox.net

Quala-Tel Communications Frank Uram858-577-2900 furam@qualatel.com

ASTI   Tony Duran   626-590-2991   Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Hemet Fire Dept. Ret.  Scott Hudson951-694-2591 scotth1902@gmail.com

VERNON Fire   Mike Langer    951-775-2058   mlanger@ci.vernon.ca.us

Torrance Fire   Jon Henderson   310-977-5619 Jhenderson@torranceca.gov

Western States Fire EqupLouie Garcia213-272-5680 lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Leader Emergency VehiclesGeoff Maze626-377-2931 geoff.maze@leader-ambulance.com

MESJohn Price   562-212-68703   jprice@mesfire.com

Atwood-Prior Inc    Tom Martin   909-264-4875 tmartin.specialist@gmail.com

Safety ComponentsBill Black858-243-4371 bblack@safetycomponents.com

LA County Fire RetiredChris Marangakis562-553-2619 chris.marangakis@gmail.com

Tempest / Leader   Curt Johnson   559269-7773   curt@tempest.us.com

LA County CEO Risk ManagementGevork Kazanchyan 213.351.6408 gkazanchyan@ceo.lacounty.gov

Fed Fire Ventura CountyJack Koltaj805-989-7043 jack.koltaj@navy.mil

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - April 2017

SAFER Meeting Minutes

April 21, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Gurrola, Vice Pres Weise, Quinn, Seely, Wilkerson

Santa Monica Fire Department

Santa Monica Library

0950:   Meeting called to order - President Gurrola, Fillmore Fire Chief, welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to the City of Santa Monica for use of the facility and AllStar Fire Equipment for morning bagels and coffee.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Business Meeting:

Finance: No report at meeting, a detailed report was submitted to board via email from Past Pres Duran.

OSHA: ”Violence against first responders” reporting– Agencies must maintain a Log / Journal , (similar to a “300 Log”) beginning April 1st, 2017 of incidents involving:  (1) Member on Member, (2)Violence on  first responder from public, (3) Dog Bites.  April 2018: All members must be trained. LAFD has started a log to begin implementation.

Acceptance of NFPA standards by CalOSHA is pending “cost analysis “review by legislature as it will place burden on local government agencies. (Un-funded Mandate)

NFPA: Dick Weise – SAFER rep to 1977, (1877 Document is a SCAM doc for wildland): Committee is looking at Dozer Operator gloves, FR boot laces, “vented helmets”. Dual compliant Station-Wildland pants are out to bid for LACoFD. All helmet liners/support elements must be easily removable for proper decontamination. IAFF is pushing a Cancer Prevention program. 1971 (Structure and Proximity) updates to include systems to protect from particulates through “Hood” elements and THL standard.

“Healthy In – Healthy Out” programs are being implemented throughout the fire service.

FIRESCOPE: Chief Reyes - LAFD: Discussed the “flagging tape” colors and their meanings and the efforts underway to standardize its uses. Smoke/inhalation issues are being looked at and the desire to NOT cover other standard developers. Recommends attending “Safety Officers Conference” (3-Days), receive updates from experts and agency representatives from CalFire, aviation ops, Incident Management – Leadership. 

FDIC next week in Indianapolis.  Document # 215A updated and on website.

Apparatus: No report. One attendee related they’d experienced some LDH (4”) delaminate.

Technology: No report

Venders: FDIC Next week in Indianapolis.

“Foresters and Fire Wardens”: Pilgrim Pines (Oak Glen) May 4 &5th, 2017

• Program: Fire Service working at Tactical Law Enforcement Incidents

Presenter: B/C Don Reyes – LAFD – Homeland Security Division & FIRESCOPE

Reference FIRESCOPE ICS 701 Document, Revised June 23, 2015 or newer

• History : (Columbine Incident was impetus – Immediate Action Tactics developed)

• Pre Incident Considerations

• Initial Actions Tactical Considerations

• Staging

• Tactical Context

• Working with Law/SWAT

• Nomenclature

• The Bid One

What is a Tactical Law Enforcement Incident?

1. Active Shooter, Hostage Taker, Barricaded Suspect

2. Suspect with explosives

3. Perimeter Search

4. MACTAC / Combat Coordinated Attack

5. ICS 701

TEMS: Tactical Emergency Medical Support:

Section redacted

Pre-Incident Considerations:

• Pre-Incident Relationships

• Training:

• FRO

• Active Shooter

• MACTAC

• PPE and Equipment

• Adapting other SOG’s

• Other Agency needs (Public Schools, airport other “stake-holders”)

• Public Information and Incident Messaging (Social Media)

• Blue Force Tracking being developed for public safety

Initial Actions:

• Confirm Incident Type

• Co-locate with LAW OIC/IC

• Establish Unified Command:

• ID Hot/Warm/ Cold Zones

• Create RTF’s

• Request Additional Resources

• Create Notification Area with Dispatch (to control access to incident area)

• Communication Plan

• Inter-Agency Communication

• Rescue Group Supervisor

• Med Communications

• Med Group Supervisor

• Fire Group

Tactical Considerations:

Section redacted

 Staging:

 Section redacted

Tactical Context:

Risk Assessment:

• ID HOT/WARM/COLD zones

• Viable Victims

• What Can we Accomplish?

PACE:

• Primary Plan

• Alternate Plan

• Contingency Plan

• Emergency Plan

LCES:

Does each agency have same criteria?

Comm Plan

Interagency Communications

Working with Law/SWAT:

• The Officer in Charge

• Mutual Support

• Unified Command

• Briefing(s)

• Medical Plan & CCP (Casualty Collection Point)

• Force Protection

• Fire Plan

• Discussion on ISIS publications and the JRIC info products being distributed to Law/Fire Agencies. Push Publications are developed for reasons, not just on a time-table.  

( LAFD) Working withLAW/SWAT/TEMS:

Section redacted

Terminology:

Section redacted

MACTAC Considerations:

• Tactical Areas (Notification Areas)

• Incident Facilities Locations

• Maximum Commitment

• California Mutual Aid

• Federal Assets

Meeting recessed to Vender Time at 1125

Meeting reconvened at 1145 for roundtable

Roundtable:

Dick Weise – Predicts active fire season, drills coming up. KME Quints coming soon. Replacing many “plastic interior parts” from rigs to reduce off gassing

Weisenburg – Ventura County Fire – Class of recruits going through, need medics, 5 Rosenbowers Type 1’s, 1 Quint ordered. Next Month BBQ at SAFER meeting. Two years till next retirement

Crystal – Fillmore / Ventura Federal FF’s – Hiring six

Scott Quinn – LAFD B/C – Castro Retired last week, slowing drill towers to two per year. Has had 4” LDH separating.  LAFD had a large fire on the Vernon border in a food processing plant.

Had a kid making pipe bombs in a neighborhood. Was injured.

 LAFD responded to Murrieta Georgia FF’s accident that was fatal. The guy had just toured the fire station that responded to the incident. LAFD provided “honor guard” to the coroner, then the funeral home and finally to the airport. Provided family support to the friends / family from Georgia.

Kirk Owen – Veridian PPE – Will be at FDIC next week introducing a new generation FF Glove.

Jack K Ventura Federal FF – Looking for Chief to

Don Reyes – LAFD –

Jeff Wilkerson May 10th, Camp Pendelton Dozer School May 1, 2017, CalFIRE. 1st Week in June – Fire School.

Steve Hoyle – ORCO (Retired) – Fire Museum – Related the loss of agency history, experience

Bill Ward – Pump recovery system – Saves water while allowing real world training opportunities.

Tracy Rabe - Fire Rescue Equipment – Rep’s footwear and workrite uniforms.

Rick Holman – AllStar Fire Equipment – Will be at FDIC. Scott bought by 3-M

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment - :LaHabra Heights looking at Rosenbouer Type 1 and 3 appratus. Has a new glove to show at FDIC.

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior , Inc. - Factory Rep’s for Pelican, others. Has Sun Block, Insect repellant, mounting brackets. Showed a new foam cartridge nozzle.

Jim Cleary – Plymovent – ORCO 61 burned, 61 on a call when they responded to their station for a reported structure fire. Contract just signed to have it rebuilt.

Eric Higgins – BestWay Laundry- Related he’d have a “Scanning Program” to track PPE laundering for 1851 compliance.

John Price – LACoFD (Retired) – MES PPE Expert

Rob Span Ventura County Fire –

Frank QualTel – Showed the wireless headset / transmitter to interface with rig radio and intercom. 

Lazaro Martinez – MES – PPE, equipment for Law and Fire Services. Has InfraRed cameras and Scope for USA

Davis A – Industrial Scientific – Related the company and the industry they service. Gas detection equipment and chemical monitoring.

Keith Gurrola – Fillmore FD – Will be hiring FF’s after current group is fully integrated. Annual Golf tournament will be June 3rd, 2017.

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                           NAME                 PHONE #              EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)    Chuck Seely    (949) 492-7993     firebiz@att.net

c alifornia fire museum   steve hoyle       9494965688        stbear@cox.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EX    JIM CLEAERY    909-720-7064

Camp Pendleton Fire ret.  Jeff Wilkerson949-830-087    jwilker@cox.net

Quala-Tel Communications    Frank Uram 858 577-2900      furam@qualatel.com   

Los Angeles Fire Dept  Scott Quinn213-434-1380 scott.quinn@lacity.org

Los Angeles County Fire Dick Weise 951-807-1914

rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Municipal Emergency ServicesLaz Martinez     lmartinez@mesfire.com

Atwood-Prior/Pelican Products Tom Martin 909-264-4875

tmartin@firebrigade.com

Louie GarciaLouie Garcia213-272-5680   lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Industrial ScientificDavid Molinatti714-403-1915 dmolinatti@indsci.com

Torrance Fire Dept.  Tim McAtee     310-344-1490

 Santa Barbara County Fire Dept.  Michael Klusyk   805-896-6337

Ventura City Fire DeptLuis Manzano   805-256-8533

Veridian Fire Protective GearKirk Owen 712-260-3547 kirk@veridian.net

Fillmore Fire Department Crystal Rhoden 805-701-5891

Swangemini6@yahoo.com

Los Angeles Fire DepartmentDon Reyes 213359-1054 donald.reyes@lacity.org

Fillmore Fire Department Keith Gurrola 8055580932 keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Bestway Laundry Solutions Eric higgins 18005426166

sales@bestwayls.com

Federal Fire Ventura County Jack Koltaj 805 989-2373 jack.koltaj@navy.mil

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip Tracy Rabe 949-709-8808

tracy@linegear.com

Pump Pod USA        Bil Ward    949-246-6999     bill@liqui-pod.com

MES                             John Price   562-212-6803   jrpice@mesfire.com

Allstar Fire Equip.    Rick Homan   626-255-0434rickh@allstarfire.com

Los Angeles Fire Dept     Scott Quinn213-434-1380

scott.quinn@lacity.org

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - March 2017

SAFER Meeting Minutes

March 17, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Gurrola,Vice Pres Quinn, Past Pres. Duran, Seely, Sczcepanek, Cardenas,  Vender Liaison Sposato

Fillmore Fire Department

Fillmore City Hall

0945    Meeting called to order - President Gurrola, Fillmore Fire Chief, welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to the City of Fillmore for use of the facility and Louie Garcia of  Western States Fire Equipment for morning bagels and coffee,  the” Fillmore Fire Foundation” for BBQ lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Business Meeting:

Finance: $467.65 savings, $1000+/- in checking. Tony encouraged all to pay their dues (on line or by check). We’d like to hire a web-master to handle some of those updates as required. Our expenses include support of NFPA committees.

OSHA: ” Violence against first responders” reporting– Agencies must maintain a Log / Journal , (similar to a “300 Log”) beginning April 1st, 2017 of incidents involving:  (1) Member on Member, (2)Violence on  first responder from public, (3) Dog Bites.  April 2018: All members must be trained.

NFPA: Jim Evans:  1851 Committee met to consider public input and begin drafting new standard. Available on-line for review. “At incident cleaning” will be addressed in the new 1851 standard. * AB2146 (Cal) is going to make 1851 ‘Law” in California. A discussion on AB 2146 followed: Cost to implement, gov’t un-funded mandate issue, Grant opportunities to cover PPE and laundering facilities, the “10 year Rule” (maximum life-span of PPE). The act will have a five year phase-in period. Year one will have requirement to conduct “Advanced Inspection” and “Annual Inspections”. Helmets are high on list for replacement to CalOSHA approved gear.  

Apparatus: No report today. Joe added there has been a consolidation of ambulance companies into REVONE: a public company who bought several major manufacturers including KME and E-1 manufacturing.  

Technology: Discussion on the web-site work.

Venders: FDIC In Indianapolis Joe recommends everyone attend at least once, it’s the best look at all the equipment available in the market place.  April 26th thru 30th, 2017.

• Program: Initial Accident Investigations- a Guide for Incident Safety Officers

Presenter: Brian Bulger - Ventura County Fire Department (Retired) , Incident Safety Officer

            Insert program PP/PDF

Presentation opened with demonstration to represent a group of people with observable skill sets but who don’t routinely work together (similar to resources assigned to an incident):

 A display of 6 individuals performing a task as directed by a “supervisor” who provided specific instructions on the task to be completed (a 7’ stick exercise). The exercise demonstrated the difficulty in coordinating a group of “experts” to complete a series of tasks using DIRECTIONS ONLY, then demonstrated the observable improvements in task completion with LEADERSHIP ADDED (pushing the stick down to establish momentum towards successful completion).  Discussion on “leadership” and “Followership” roles in a program.

Tony Duran then related his experience’s investigating numerous accident investigations while working for LACoFD as a Safety Officer. Many times another agency will take the “Lead Investigative Role” to cancel out any biases or favoritism. 

Scott Quinn related some helpful tips:

• Don’t call it an ACCIDENT, it’s always referred to as n INCIUDENT.

• Maintain the demeanor that were trying to resolve a safety matter, not a disciplinary matter – even though a disciplinary action may come if warranted.

Hand-Out:

PREPARING FOR THE INTERVIEW

1. Review any previous similar statement or evidence available.

2. Make a written or mental note of “Known” issues.

3. Make a written or mental note of the “Need to Know” issues.

INTRODUCTION

1. Properly identify yourself.

2. Give reason for interview without disclosing case details.

3. Conduct interview with all witnesses.

ESTABLISHING A REPORE

1. Comment on topics of apparent interest to the interviewee.

2. Establish confidence by friendly confidence – downplay the investigator roles.

3. Keep conversation informal and easy.

4. Be pleasant and avoid unpleasant expressions.

5. Tape record interview, if possible.

SAMPLE OF QUESTIONS TO ASK

1. State date, time, place of interview, name of interviewer and interviewee.

2. Have interviewee acknowledge and and permit tape recording of interview for the record.

3. Have interviewee state occupation and any technical background.

4. Ask Interviewee of what he / she heard or observed that was unusual before or after the accident / investigation.
   Have interviewee describe what happened.

5. Ask for other witnesses.

NOTE:  EMPLOYEES ARE ENTITLED TO HAVE EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATION UPON REQUEST – ie Union Rep.

AFTER INTERVIEW

1. Label all taped cassettes / notes and secure a “CONFIDENTIAL” marked enveloped. Forward to the Departments Safety Office.

DUTY SAFETY OFFICER

ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION GUIDELINES

(VEHICLE AND INJURY)

ISOLATE SCENE

1. Obtain Briefing from Incident Commander.

2. Secure the scene with barricade tape – utilize Police or Department personnel or other assistance.

EVIDENCE

1. Photograph:

   1. Major Incident – Department photographer

   2. Routine Incident – Disposable (Digital or Smart Phone)

2. Diagram and measure the scene

3. Account for any movement of physical evidence.

4. Vehicle accidents and potential criminal circumstances – local police agency in charge of investigation and evidence.

WITNESSES

1. Name, address, work and home telephone numbers.

2. Their location at the time of the accident.

INTERVIEWS:

1. Interviews conducted by the Duty Safety Officer are to be considered FACT FINDING in nature only. Fact finding issues are those related to the following items:

2. Equipment Performance

3. Safety Practice

4. Standard Techniques

5. Training

6. Issues of a non-punitive nature

7. If, for any reason, during the interview it is discovered that wrongdoing or gross negligence were factors in the accident, the interview process shall cease immediately and the Department of Human Resources shall be contacted for direction. This action is to preclude any violation of the employees’ rights.

Three “categories / things” Safety Officers should classify:

1. Items – Things we all can discuss without specifics

2. Concerns – An observed risk / hazard we all can discuss and determine a “best case” solution.

3. Issues – Already happened

• Who owns the problem? Critical Factor in analysis of accident. The more complex the incident the more difficult the analysis.

• Route Cause Analysis – Un-layering to the most basic task level

• Swiss Cheese analogy (one slice – see light, add additional slices and less shines through).

• Seven coinciding events that lead to an accident (USAF)

• Who owns the problem? Related his experience with a burn-over (Rucker – Cedar Fire) that occurred outside of Julian, Ca.: Extinguished FF’s burning body, took photos and notes on situation. Didn’t know who was “in –charge” as the incident hadn’t built to a complete incident command structure.

• Utilize “Job aides” (Lap top, forms) to help document and format the investigative pathway going forward.

• Have checklists, similar investigative documents from prior incidents.

• Your Expectations: Have a good an idea what you want to accomplish on an investigation, understanding your investigation may simply “attach” to another agencies investigation when they have a larger / more appropriate level of investigation.

• Discussion of CalOSHA’s role:

• Uses the :SOP’s, standards from “host agency / jurisdiction” to apply.

Meeting recessed to Vender Time at 1125

Meeting reconvened at 1145 for roundtable

• Board of Supervisor Kelly Longer addressed the meeting and expressed appreciation for our work on behalf of employee and health safety.

Roundtable:

Steve Hoyle – CalFire / OCFDCa Fire Museum and learning center. Encourages out-reach to the Irvine City Council @ CityofIrvine.org  to support the California Fire Museum in the future Great Park.  

Jeff Wilkerson – Camp Pendleton Fire Department (Retired) – Relates the use of flags over deceased is not allowed in federal incidents.  

Capt Cardenas – LAFD Safety Coordinator – Numerous promotions (60) in the LAFD all the way up the ranks. Running two academies now, will trim to one next year. Working on an “Overhaul Committee” to consider how the agency leaves fire scenes to minimize toxic exposures to crews. They want to eliminate or at least minimize overhaul in the future. He related some issues with gasoline fueled smoke ejectors as a source of CO. Related / reminded attendees of the Federal death benefit for ff families.

Scott Quinn – AC LAFD – Added to the discussion on overhaul and it’s connection to Cancer in FF’s. LAFD now has psychologists to help with FF Health issues.

Scott  Bethurum  - CAL Fire Riverside – Related they’ve recently installed extractors (31 sites so far) to help with 1851 PPE laundering. Recently received an $18,000 citation for not providing adequate water in a heat illness incident. Discussion followed with agency representatives with experience fighting CalOSHA citations relating their advice. 

Don Reyes LAFD – World Fire Police Games – August7-16th web site: Related information available at the website: la17wpfg.com, opening ceremony at the LA Coliseum.   

Tony Duran –ASTI -  LACoFD (Retired) – Related ASTI teaches agencies on the response to Anhydrous ammonia incidents. Adds the only rescue from an NH3 incident will be by first responders in 1872 PPE with SCBA as waiting for a reinforced response by HazMateers with class A suits will be too late to save a victim.

Brian Bulger – Retired and enjoying life!

Joe Sposato- AllStar – SCOTT being purchased by 3M, ($2 Billion), 3M known for innovation and allowing its daughter companies to operated unhindered. SCOTT Thermal Imager available. Lion apparel V-Force Turn-Out available. Future is focused on keeping PPE CLEAN for FF health. Phoenix Helmets have new head pads for the inside top.

Mike Klusyk - Santa Barbara County Fire – Works on stations and grounds, Chair of Safety Specialist Group with FIRESCOPE. Expecting a severe fire season due to heavy rains this year. SART

John Flores – Santa Monica Fire – Organizing PPE program, purchases, maintenance etc.

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment – Discussed “SMART” vehicles and the requirements for monitoring equipment to document the operation of all commercial vehicles. More info should be available at FDIC. Western States Fire Equipment represent “Rosenbauer” apparatus.

Tim Macee –Torrance Fire Dept. – Safety Committee member in Torrance. Recently attended IAFF Legislative Conference in DC, Discussed the conference and the Torrance refinery issues which use HF in their production of hydrocarbon products.  All Torrance personnel use “station shoes” (black tennis shoes) when they leave the rig to eliminate blood borne pathogens etc. from station / quarters and are removing 80% of station carpeting. “Fire” gear gets removed prior to entering quarters and bagged for cleaning. “Fire Hood Fridays” is a local standard developed to ensure protective hoods are maintained in a clean condition.

Kevin Schroepfer - Oxnard Fire Department – Initiative to support: ”Clean Fire Station” programs: assigns two hoods / man to ensure protective hoods are maintained in a clean condition .

Rob Szczepanek - Ventura County FD has all Rosenbauer apparatus, purchase a quint, water recycling trailers has saved millions of gallons of water while training – drilling. Had a “heat related” illness that was reported as “Heat Exhaustion” which should not be used as were not Ds – we do not diagnose.

Steve Cooley – COBRA Litter – will have a sample at next meeting that addresses the enhancements requested by SAFER members.

Jim Clearey – Plymovent Air Exchange – Related diesel exhaust is the only listed carcinogen FF’s are exposed to everyday in the worked place. WHO has now stated diesel exhaust is a hazard as a carcinogen.

David Molinatti - Industrial Scientific – Related 35k times users have turned off their (4-gas) monitors while in alarm mode. Some relate they found the alarm distracting others related they didn’t know what to do in response to the alarm. New IS monitors actually annunciate what actions the user should take when in alarm. 

Eric Higgins – BestWay Laundry – New scanner capability to track and monitor equipment settings for proper laundering to be shown at FDIC in April.

Ryan Johnson – SoCal PPE Laundry – Class in June for PPE Class will train FF’s to conduct in house PPE inspections. Look for details.

Alexis Labbe’ – Leader Fire Equipment Supply – Discussed their company and the products they represent. Will have a booth at FDIC. Has a new line of nozzles being tested at North Net in Anaheim. Has Search-Cam equipment, FOAM supplies and rescue equipment for USAR work.

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety – Commented on the meeting today and expressed appreciation for the efforts on SAFETY being made across the nation. Related the Hood problem and related several solutions to eliminate the toxicity being detected.  Related each wash needs 3 x rinses per wash.

Keith Gurrola- Fillmore Fire – Next month’s meeting M A Y be in San Dimas Forestry HQ. or Santa Monica

May meeting is scheduled for  Ventura county Fire  

1145 Meeting adjourned to BBQ lunch hosted by Fillmore Fire Foundation.

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                 NAME              PHONE #                      EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)      Chuck Seely     (949) 492-7993             firebiz@att.net  California fire muaseum    steve hoyle        9494965688                 stbear@cox.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCH   JIM CLEAERY   909-720-7064

Camp Pendleton Fire ret. Jeff Wilkerson 949-830-087           jwilker@cox.net

ASTI    LACoFD Retired   Tony Duran              Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Los Angeles Fire Dept    Scott Quinn   213-434-1380     scott.quinn@lacity.org

CAL FIRE/ RCoFD   Scott Bethurum    951-575-5391 scott.bethurum@fire.ca.gov

Western States Fire EquipLouie Garcia   213-272-5680     lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Fillmore Fire      Keith Gurrola    805-558-0932         keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Santa Monica Fire     John Flores    805-236-5633        john.flores@smgov.net

Industrial Scientific    David Molinatti    714-403-1915     dmolinatti@indsci.com

Cobra Litters        Steve Cooley       805-377-5348           coolnco@aol.com

Torrance Fire Dept.    Tim McAtee     310-344-1490      tmcatee@torranceca.gov

Santa Barbara Co Fire Dept.  Michael Klusyk805-896-6337m.klusyk@sbcfire.com

Ventura City Fire DeptLuis Manzano805-256-8533   lmanzano@cityofventura.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGEJIM CLEARY 909-720-7064jcleary@airexcvhange.com

Solutions Safety     Jim Evans 770-634-0848      jime@solutionssafety.com

SoCal PPE   Ryan Johnson   619-993-1164         ryan@socalppe.com

Los Angeles Fire Department     Don Reyes    213359-1054   donald.reyes@lacity.org

Los Angeles Fire Department    John Cardenas   661-917-7019 john.cardenas@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry SolutionsEric higgins18005426166     sales@bestwayls.com

oxnard    Kevin.Schroepfer     805385-7709``    kevin,schroepfer@oxnard.org

VCFD     Robert Szczepanek   805-914-4021       Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - January 2017

SAFER Meeting Minutes

January 20, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Fortman, VP Weise,Past Presidents Dolan,   Seely, Quinn, Gurrola, Vender Liaison Sposato

Los Angeles County  Fire Department

Fire Camp 2   

1010    Meeting called to order -  President B/C Fortman LAFD welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to Los Angeles County Fire Department for use of the facility for morning snacks and coffee.

SAFER will introduce todays program and forego the usual business meeting as the annual Board of Directors meeting will be held immediately after the scheduled monthly SAFER meeting.

Pres Fortman related the importance of SAFER and the relationships it fosters to further safety in the Fire Family”. He congratulated Board Member Scott Quinn on his recent promotion to Battalion Chief with the Los Angeles Fire Department.

Pres Fortman introduced our program presenter, Chief Kirk Owen, relating his appreciation for the assistance he provided in developing the LAFD PPE program.

1015    VP Dick Weise opened the SAFER meeting and led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

• Program: NFPA 1851

• Past, Present and Future

Presenter: Chief Kirk Owen, Plano Texas Fire Department (Retired)

            Former Chair of NFPA 1971 / 1851 Committee, Regional Sales Manager, Veridian

• Insert program PDF

1877 – Selection, Care and Maintenance of Wildland PPE

1851 covers PPE found in the 1971 Standard

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                         NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)        Chuck Seely (949) 492-7993    firebiz@att.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGE   steve harris       909-973-8211                steveh@airexchange.com

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGE   JIM CLEAERY   909-720-7064            jtc1@roadrunner.com

ASTI       Tony Duran  626-590-2991     Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Allstar Fire    Stuart Lovi        626-255-0433        stuartl@allstarfire.com

Los Angeles County Fire          Dick Weise                  951 807-1914

City of Downey Fire                Pete Browne               562.243.3393            pbrowne3473@gmail.com

Municipal Emerg.  Services    Lazaro Martinez          562-320-2385            lmartinez@mesfire.com

CAL FIRE                                  Bob Wood                   951-757-8331            robert.wood@fire.ca.gov

Kern County Fire DepatmentSteven Salkeld             661-645-2020            smsalkeld@co.kern.ca.us

LAFD Retired                           James Dolan                562-400-1298            jsdolan123@aol.com

LAFD                                        John A Cardenas         661-917-7019            john.cardenas@lacity.org

Torrance Fire                        Jon Henderson            310-977-5619            Jhenderson@torranceca.gov

Allstar                                    Joe Sposato                 626-652-0900            joes@allstarfire.com

Bestway Laundry                     Eric Higgins                 951-532-7700            ehiggins@bestwayls.com

Veridian                                  Kirk Owen                   712-260-3547            kirk@veridian.net

CAL FIRE Riverside County      Barry Owens               951-218-4309            barry.owens@fire.ca.gov

CAL FIRE Riverside County      Scott Bethurum           951-575-5391            scott.bethurum@fire.ca.gov

Fillmore City Fire                    Keith Gurrola            805-377-1491            keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Ventura County Fire                Michael Weisenberg805-990-4326            michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Vernon Fire                             Craig Peltier                661.618.1779            cpeltier@ci.vernon.ca.us

Vernon Fire                             Bob Farrell                  951-741-6695            rfarrell@ci.vernon.ca.us

Curtis                                       Scott Marshall             626-840-7589            smarshall@lncurtis.com

LAFD/SAFER Pres                    Ellsworth Fortman      213-700-0668            ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

Western States Fire Equip.     Louie Garcia                909-510-4266            lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Ventura City Fire                     Brandyn Johnson         805-551-6086            bjohnson@ci.ventura.ca.us

Curtis                                       Ashley Silcott               626-250-1772            asilcott@lncurtis.com

Ventura City Fire                     Lou Manzano            805-256-8522            lmanzano@cityofventura.net

Curtis                                       Charles Turansky        818-398-6818            cturansky@lncurtis.com

Tencate                                   Bart McCool                541-221-5002            b.mccool@tencate.com

ECMS                                       Bob Mercurio            562-266-8465            bmercurio@ecmsinc.biz

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - December 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

December 16, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Fortman, VP Weise, Seely, Quinn,

Santa Fe Springs Fire Department

 Santa Fe Springs Fire Headquarters   

1010    Meeting called to order – D/C Hayward welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting,. Thanks to Santa Fe Springs Fire Department for use of the facility and Ruth with Santa Fe Springs FDfor morning brunch and coffee.

1015    VP Dick Weise opened the SAFER meeting and led  the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

• Program: “Burn It Down”- Bomb Factory House

Presenter: Nick Vent – San Diego County Haz-Mat (Retired)

 HazMat and Safety Training

Introduced a 2 –Day course that will be offered through DOT in March, 2017 in the LA Area. Flyer to be forwarded to list via email.

Escondido California 1954 Scott

Gardener stepped on a stone while clearing brush which exploded, injuring him. Medics responded and assessed the victim (one was a HazMat FF) and treated the victim. The FD responded PD who took the scene over as a crime scene.

On scene FD turned their radio to all-call and stated “may-day, may-day we need PD assistance” which caused a mass response from all resources in the area.

The issue of jurisdiction arose:

• San Diego Sheriff

• Escondido PD

• San Marcos Fire

• County Haz-Mat

6 Mason Jars of unknown material were located – found to be 98% pure organic peroxide (HMTD – Hexamethylene Tri-Peroxide Diamine-). Jars had signs of rust on the jars.

Fusion Center found the tenant was a naturalized US citizen of Russian origin. His wife was still a Russian citizen. Had made numerous trips to Mexico in the prior month and had purchased commercial Castor Beans for unknown purposes. Pack-Rat conditions revealed numerous materials that are pre-curses for HMTD.  

5# HMTD was the chemical – explosive used in the London bus bombing.

HMTD:

• Citric Acid (Vitamin C)

• Hexamine (Sterno)

• Hydrogen Peroxide – Commercially / Consumer

• Methyl / Ethyl Alcohol

Dissolve Haxamine

Cool

DEH HazMat was responded by SD Co Sheriffs Bomb squad as they left their station as “Tec-Refs”

Objective: to render SAFE the 6 mason jars of HMTD

Video of the individual jars was shown to demonstrate the relative power of the material (HMTD)

Several methods to accomplish this was studied by FBI Bomb experts and HazMat staff. One problem was the remaining HMTD in the soil. The suspect had been dumping his waste in the gravel behind the house. They decided to make a mixture of 5% Sodium Hydroxide and XXX to reduce the Ph

9th Civil Support Team out of Los Alamitos was able to respond and provide assistance to the incident.

DTRA – Defence Threat Reductiion Agency, Fed State EPA and Lawrence Livermore Laboratory.

DEH pursued mapping and plume predictions.

Bomb Squad utilized Ahura RMX was used to run samples in the backyard

Interview with suspect”George” :

• No radiation

• No Ricin, Castor Beans only

• HMTP referred to as “Puffer Powder”

• Hydrogen Peroxide

• Sulfuric Acid

• Hydrogen Cyanide

• Bulk Lead

• Fragmentation (Pineapple) grenade molds

• Precursors for Nitro-Glycerin

• Quantities of PETN

• Whole hand grenades

• Lab gear used to do chemistry

• Equipment to increase potency of various chemicals.

• Bulk ammunition of various calibers

• “Dye Packs” with $$ attached from multiple bank robberies in the San Diego area.

• 50 garage door openers

• Christmas “ornaments”

• Door-Bell was wired to a switch

• Camo material

• Ammo Boxes full of all kinds of bomb making materials

• Home-made Blasting caps, made from shell casings with light bulb filaments imbedded in HMTD. Tested by Bomb Tec’s – all worked

• Home-Made Thermite in jars

• 14# of finished HMTD

• Tracking Devices (from Bank robberies)

• Police Uniform

• Various disguises

Damage to the residence was noted from numerous accidental explosions which occurred as the suspect made various bomb types.

Finding the scene to be so un-safe to continue, Command stopped work and regrouped to determine the safest method of mitigating the hazard. A meeting of all stake holders found some opposition but after fully explaining the rational, finally agreed to the tactic. IAP’s, media notification, necessary evacuations were planned. All accessible evidence was collected to remove as many toxics from the down-stream plume. 

They decided to burn the house and all contents  

60 Agencies involved: Local, County, State, Federal as limited military as Technical Reference sources.

Video of Jan Caldwell (PIO for SD Sheriffs Dept) was shown. She explained various questions by the media which helped to ease certain concerns of the public. A “Town-Hall” meeting was held.

A Local Declaration of Emergency was issued; State Agencies were tapped to assist in the clean-up and financial issues.

A “Fire Wall” was built to protect adjacent properties. ($20,000)

Used a Web Page to provide info to public

Air Monitoring strategy was developed to document the environment during and after the planned fire out to 2 miles. (Model showed the plume to stay within 75’ of the property). Heat measurement was used to insure the heat level was reached that would destroy the chemicals on site. Smoke went 2600’ straight up during the fire.

HazMat Incinerators run at 1900 degrees, the interior temp of the house was 2600 degrees. A Burn Plan was used to burn the chemicals stored in the living areas then expose and spread into the bedrooms.

Numerous chemicals were targeted for monitoring, including radiological isotopes.

Property Owner was offered $100,000 by the county. She refused and

George Jakubek was given 30 years for the bank robberies

He admitted making exposives

1130

Next Meeting in LACoFD

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

AllStar and Curtis and Plymovent

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                         NAME PHONE #                                             EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)                                    Chuck Seely     (949) 492-7993           firebiz@att.net

Downey Fire                                        Peter Browne(562) 243-3393           pete.browne@downeyfire.org

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGE             JIM CLEAERY   909-720-7064            jtc1@roadrunner.com

SD County HIRT - Retired                    Nick Vent         619-778-9500            Hazmatvent@gmail.com

LAFD                                                    Ellsworth Fortman 661-645-1810       ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

CURTIS                                                            Scott Marshall 626-840-7589            smarshall@lncurtis.com

Los Angeles County Fire                      Dick Weise      951 807-1914              rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Los Angeles County Fire                      Chris Marangakis (562) 553-2619      chris.marangakis@gmail.com

Fillmore City Fire                                Keith Gurrola805-558-0932            keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Ventura Co, Fire                                  Robert Szczepanek 805-914-4021      Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - November 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

November 18, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, VP  Weise, ,Quinn, Seely, Alvarado, Past President Duran, Past President Dolan

Long Beach Fire Department

 Headquarters   

0900 – 0945    Vender Display / Networking         

1000    Meeting called to order –  B/C President Fortman (Batt 13)  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting , introduced B/C Alvarado (LBFD) who led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LBFD for use of the facility and John Price - MES for hospitality lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

1000 – 1130    Presentation – Assistant Chief Corey Rose -“Firefighter Behavioral Health”

• Program: FD/LEO Command Operations

 Chief Ed Hadfield – Rincon Fire Department / Firetown Training Specialist

Email: ehadfield@rincontribe.org

“One Team – Command Concepts” – Command Concepts for the New Normal” pp

A concept developed in Huntington Beach FD & PD. They wanted to better coordinate first responders at / during major events and incidents. The concept was a “Segway” to promote the use of “Incident Command System” within the “LAW” side like the “FIRE” side uses frequently.

Chief Hadfield related the risks in the City of Santa Maria (MS 13 etc.) “thrill” murders which forced the FD/LEO units to coordinate using IC system routinely for daily operations.

The concept of routinely utilizing the ICS is based as an “organic level”, at the basic operational level. Patrol Officers, Sergeants levels MUST buy in to be successful. 

Command puts people at risk, our job is to determine the “Level of Risk” we’re willing to expose them to.

Our job is to put people at risk to serve the community, the LAW side’s job is to provide overwatch to protect our people and the public.

FD/LEO Goal: “You home, I go home”

Personal “Medical Plan”: Each LAW member produced a medical plan that was carried within the B/C’s car in case an officer was injured. The medics would take the info to the hospital. Includes everything about the officer as well as specific instructions he wants to be done on his behalf.

B/C’s would attend briefings prior to high risk warrant services, major crime incidents and similar event profiles. Casualty Collection Points (CCPs), Com. Plan, Staging locations and Hospital locations determined during briefing.  Mutual Aid assets, Auto Aid agencies with non-common communications need to be identified and policy / procedures for mitigation planned.

P.R.I.D.E.S.

P – Patrol Culture

R – Respond – Need to respond with LAW on routine calls to contribute at the CP

I – Initiate – Involve yourself in the Command

D – Decide

E- Evaluate

S - Serve

In Santa Maria benefits were noted in many critical incidents where assets were on scene and positioned for quick response.

Chief Hadfield recommended “Plate Carriers” in lieu of traditional body armor. The front side was for the public, the back has equipment for the team member: Israeli bandages, tourniquets, dressings etc. Ballistic helmets were utilized by fire service.

Radio traffic needs a Tactical Channel for the incident.

B/C Fortman (LAFD) related LAPD has outstanding policies to include FD/EMS in briefings. Rescue Task Forces are outside the IDLH but proximate to the incident. They have “Tactical Medics” with dual band radios to communicate with both sides. The Tactical Medics are to provide aid to team members, the Rescue Task Force provides aid to victims, perp’s.

Discussion on whether to wear “Fire Gear” over body armor or “blend” into appearance of other incident members. Chief Hadfield feels it’s better to appear as menacing as possible to avoid being a “Target in Yellow Brush Gear”.

Chief related he produced a “Ten Things LAW should not do at a structure fire”.

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• Business Meeting:

Dues: Please pay annual dues per website fee schedule.

1130 -1200 Roundtable

• Roundtable:

Alex Warehouse

Robert Takashida LAFD: Risk Management Chief

Ron Barome - Burbank Fire- Training Officer

Scott Quinn LAFD: Medical Liaison Officer related LA has many medical claims every year. Injuries, Illnesses, equipment

Chad Stuart LAFD: New member in Risk Management – Litigation liaison.

Ken Cardenas LAFD Safety Coordinator- Looking into overhaul procedures graduated 42 members with two more in process. JOIN LAFD.org

B/C Fortman LAFD – New EMS Bureau assignment. LAFD down to 200 vacancies from last year’s 300. New resources are coming on-line this year. SAFER board meeting in early December to plan next board. Recognized Capt Jim Dolan’s contribution to LAFD Safety Programs.

Mike Schlagg- Cart System: new tires will be available for off road, loop to be added to attach ropes to rear.

Steve Cooly – Cobra Carts representative: Discussed design changes to improve the performance / utility of the Cobra Cart System. Rated at 1000#, black unit for SWAT operations.

Jim Dolan LAFD Retired – Words of wisdom

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment – Manufacture of skid units, distributor of PPE and fire equipment.

Stuart Luvi – AllStar Fire Equipment – Recommended attending the Hawaiian Fire Chiefs Association Annual Meeting on Maui. $200/night at Ritz-Carlton. $25 to join association. Related the newest SCOTT IR equipped mask.

Dick Weise LACoFD – NFPA Safety Briefing on washing hoods coming out. CA concerns and contamination reduction are

1877 document for SCAM of Wildland Ensemples. Working on new “lighter” fire shelters. Dozers and helicopter pilot gloves are being reviewed. Dual compliancenew station pants are being purchasing Station / wildland pants as a PPE. Undergarment to be bought out of uniform allowances. Helmet liners are a concern in units that don’t have removable liners for cleaning. Hoods to filter out contaminates down to one micron (98% of what’s in smoke). REM Teams: Rapid Emergency Medics. Cancer reduction program coming – NFPA, IAFF contributing to a package program.

John Price (JP) LACoFD Retired – Arranged use of facility. MES distributor of PPE and fire equipment.

Firefighter Cancer Support Network Vice President – Brian Feebers Pasadena Fire Marshal new President. Related recommendations for reducing CANCER risks: Clean / Replace soiled hoods, leave contaminated gear OUTSIDE, clean as per 1855. Buy cleaning packets to reduce skin contact transmitted toxins from tools and skin.

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc. – Manufactures representative for several companies.

• next meetings:

1. December @ Santa Fe Springs    

2. January 20, 2017 @ LACoFD Camp 2                                                      

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)        November 18th, 2016

Agency / Co                                   NAME PHONE #                                 EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)                  Chuck Seely     (949) 492-7993           firebiz@att.net

Cascade Fire Equipment Co          Lazaro Martinez 714-715-8189          lazaro@cascadefire.com

Allstar Fire Equipment                  Stuart Lovi 626-255-0433                   stuartl@allstarfire.com

Ammonia Safety Training Institute - ASTI            Tony Duran 626-590-2991      Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Los Angeles County Fire                Dick Weise 951 807-1914                   rweiselacofd@yahoo.co

LAFD Retired                                 Jim Dolan        562-421-3258            jsdolan123@aol.com

LAFD                                            John A. Cardenas 661-917-7019         john.cardenas@lacity.org

Rincon Fire Department               Ed Hadfield 9518582444                    ehadfield@rincontribe.org

Cobra Litters LLC                        Mike Schlags   805-896.7993            mschlags@cobralitter.com

Los Angeles Fire Department       Chad Stuart 213 4826933                   chad.stuart@lacity.org

Burbank FD                                   Ron Barone 818-823-6560                  rbarone@burbankca.gov

Atwood-Prior MFGR Rep            Tom Martin 937-689-2222                 tmartin@firebrigade.com

Cobra Litters LLC                        Steve Cooley   805-377-5348            coolnco@aol.com

long beach                                                paul alvarado562 5703003               paul alvarado

MES                                               John Price        562-212-6803            jprice@mesfire.com

LAFD                                              Scott Quinn     (213) 434-1380           scott.quinn@lacity.org

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buellton[CS1]  , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

Spencer, Iowa   51301

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment Co.

lazaro@cascadefire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc.

Manufacturers Agent

(937) 689-2222

tmartin@repagency.host

2895 Valpak Rd. N.E.

Salem, OR97303

(800) 545-5678

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - October 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

October 21, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, Weise, Seely, Quinn, Alvarado, Past President Duran, Vender liaison Sposato

Los Angeles Fire Department

 Frank Hotchkin Memorial Training Center   

0900 – 0945    Vender Display on drill deck           

0945    Meeting called to order –  B/C President Fortman (Batt 13)  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting with an update on the LAFD department, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LAFD for use of the facility and President Fortman for hospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

1000 – 1130    Presentation – Assistant Chief Corey Rose -“Firefighter Behavioral Health”

• Program: Firefighter Behavioral Health

Assistant Chief Corey Rose – “Emergency Medical Services Bureau”

(Working on Masters in Organizational Psychology)

corey.rose@lacity.org

Chief Rose related his “near death experience” during an entrapment event at the “KING FIRE”- (Sept 17, 2014, Northern California near Lake Tahoe). He was assigned as ‘STRUCTURE PROTECTION BRANCH” on a management team. He produced a series of photographs of the fire progression towards his position and related what was going through his mind that contributed to his decisions.  The experience struck home with the Chief and became a motivating factor in his pursuit of firefighter stress and behavioral health to help. He related the incidents of suicides within the fire service community and the PTSD phenomenon.

Decision’s under stress:

How?

• Stay Calm

• Think Clearly

• NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER!!!!

There are times when quitting looks good, defeat inescapable and retreat the only option.

PowerPoint by AC Rose - “Can’t Take it Anymore? Keeping Firefighters Happy: An Inside Job

10%ers:

Little empirical data is available regarding FF/EMS suicides.

Family issues and work issues combined

Risk Factors:

• Divorce

• Trauma

• Stress

• Sudden Fame

• Suicide

Suicide Motivation:

• Loss/change in important relationship

• Avoid or end perceived pain

• Escape an intolerable situation

Etc.

Indirect Suicide Indicators:

Buying a weapon

• Indirect Verbal cues:

• I cant do this anymore

• Im tired of life

• Etc.

Direct Verbal Cues:

• I’m tired of life

• I’m going to kill myself

• Etc.

Resilience “ Psych & Behavioral Lingo

Resilience= ability to withstand negative pressure

Resilient people experience negative circumstances associated with poor psychological and social outcomes yet despite the odds, the end up healthy and productive:

• Mentally ill or abusive parents

• Deprived social or economic conditions

• Major stressful events

Related to:

1. Biology – temperament, emotions etc.

2. Attachment

3. Control

90% of the population lacks traits to be emergency responders.

 “Adrenaline Junkies”:

• Control Oriented

• Attentive to detail

• Traditional

• Strong Role Identity

• Action Oriented

• Risk Takers

• Highly Dedicated

Emergency Services - Stressful?

Most Stressful Jobs: Firefighter is #1

• FF’s will seek clergy over professional mental health by 40.9% over 7.4%

• FFs tend to have positive views about the world despite continued exposure to traumatic events.

Stress in EMS Providers:

• 1,600 EMT’s and Medics surveyed

• 100% reported exposure to traumatic events

• PTSD incidence lower than general population.

Immune to stress?

• FFs are human

• They are highly effective on the job

Relationship Stressors:

Work Schedules – cause you to miss important events, occasions

Loyalty – to members, agencies, associates

Divorce – Attorney data suggest FFs have high rate of divorce. Family, home relationship issues likely related to work.

NFPA 1500 – Chapter 11: Behavioral Health and Wellness Program.

The FS Org will develop ………………

Employee Assistance Programs

• EAP

• NFF: Behavioral Health Assistance Program (BHAP)

• Regardless of what you call it, they must be familiar and be prepared to treat firefighters.

EAP

• Began in 1800’s to deal with ETOH problems

• Expanded in 1950’s to mental health

Behavioral Health:

• AKA: Mental Health

• As important as physical health and safety

• Left untreated, leads to illness and death

• Covers a wide range of issues:

• Sleep problems

• Anager management

• Depression

• PTSD

• Substance abuse and addiction

RESILIENCE: The Bottom Line:

Problem focused coping increases resilience while emotion-focused coping impairs resiliency

Resilient people are:

• Sociable

• Optimistic

• Flexible

• Self-confident

• Competent

• Insightful

• Etc.

You play the hand you’re dealt –

Promoting Resilience:

Leadership

Social Support

Stress Prevention: FFs must have good stress management skills; most stress in emergency services is not from extraordinary events/incidents but from day to day activities and responsibilities.

Stress Prevention:

Ranking causes of burnout:

1. 911 abusers

2. Extensive shift lengths

3. Sleep depravation

4. Etc.

Tips for Stress management for firefighters:

• Condition your body and mind

• Listen to your inner voice

• Never stop growing and learning

• Be positive

• Have a life outside the fire department

What do we do as leaders?

Maintain an environment of security, of support, create opportunities for success, maintain respect, reward, since of inclusion, allow others to have a since of identity, show benevolence.

Chief Rose discussed “Leadership” and the leadership program delivered at the training center and its availability to all agencies.

Define Leadership: “Influence and motivation of others even in the absence of the leader”. Based on the development of “Trust” between leader and those being led”.

Three Pillars of Leadership:

1. Ability

2. Integrity

3. Benevolence

Servant Leader

Transitional Leader

*PowerPoint Presentation, Check Sheets and Test parameters available from presenters upon request.

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• Business Meeting:

Dues: Please pay annual dues per website fee schedule.

1130 -1200 Roundtable

• Roundtable:

Dick Weise: Related recent NFPA Committee activity, expressed appreciation of the SAFER org.

Scott Quinn Capt II – LAFD : Heat / Ilness prevention program completed, completing Drill tower classes.

Ells Fortman BC  LAFD formed an equipment committee to contribute to future purchases

Alvarado Long Beach FD: Related appreciation of SAFER as imormation source.

Tony Duran  LACoFD (Retired) Now with Ammonia Institute, giving training nationally and in South America.

Treasures report: $

Reminds all to pay dues online to support the organization.

Jim Cleary: PlymoVent – Related the hazards of diesel exhaust.

Mike Slaggs – Related some info on the recent roll-over accident in Ventura County FD. Discussed his extraction cart system demonstrated below.

McGee - Torrance Fire – Discussed the problems with pathogens migration into the work place (change gear outside station, polished concrete floors instead of carpet.

ScottCalFire Riverside; Related he is the new Safety Officer for CalFire Riverside. Related the efforts they have undertaken on behalf of FF health and safety.

Joe Sposado – Vender LiasonAllStar Fire: Related the recent Fire Tech Reno event. NFPA Standard on SCBAs: A change to the “Sound” requirement will increase the volume of the alert feature. All new MUST comply, those already in service MAY update. Chicago is changing over to the ORCO spec PPE.

Jack Kolta -Pt Mago – Fed Fire Ventura County – San Nicolas Island, New Fire Chief, related the Island has no diesel fuel – uses JP 5 to fuel apparatus.

Jim Black –

B/C – Ventura County – Related the support VCoFD received during the LODD funeral for their firefighter killed in roll-over accident was exceptional.

Eric Higgins Laundry Extractors systems – Related his company supplies, installs and services extractors in support of NFPA 1851 requirements. 

Scott Periguin – Best Way Laundry – Looking to include bar-codes to interface with PPE to properly match wash cycles.

Lazaro Martinez Cascade Fire Equipment – Wildland PPE out of Medford Oregon will have booth at Firehouse world.

Bren Cohee – Christian Bros – Diesel Exhaust Installation Company Rep for Nederman.

Kirk Owen -  Veridian Fire Protective Gear - NFPA PPE committee, CalOSHA will be adapting NFPA 1851 as a recognized standard for SCAM.  

Luois Garcia Western States Fire Equipment –

Tracy Fire Equipment – Local company

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc. – Manufactures representative for several companies.

• LN Curtis Next meeting

• Long Beach FD next meeting:       Long Beach Fire Headquarters

                                                      3205 N Lakewood Blvd

                                                      Long Beach, CA90808

                                                      “FD/LEO Command Operations” – Fire Chief Ed Hadfield

Rincon FD & Firetown Training Specialist

• Please RSVP to John Price at MES for a lunch head count by 11/16/16                                                       

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)        21-Oct-16

First Name            Last Name                   Agency/Company                                Email Address

Tony          Duran            LACoFD, ret./ASTI                               Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Scott          Bethurum        CAL FIRE/ Riverside County                scott.bethurum@fire.ca.gov

Shannon    Black               VCFD                                                   shannon.black@ventura.org

Paul           Alvarado          LBFD                                                    paulalvarado@longbeac.gov

John           Cardenas         LAFD                                                    john.cardenas@lacity.org

Chuck        Seely                Downey Fire (Retired)                                    firebiz@att.net

Dick           Weise            LA County Fire                                     rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Tom           Martin             Atwood Prior factory representation tmartin@repagency.com

Tim            McAtee           Torrance Fire                                    tmcatee@torranceca.gov

Eric                        Higgins                        Bestway Laundry Solutions                 ehiggins@bestwayls.com

Scott          Peregoy           UnimacLaundry Systems                   scott.peregoy@alliancels.com

Michael     Schlags                        COBRA Litters LLC                              mschlags@cobralitter.com

Louie         Garcia             Western States Fire Equipment          lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Ellsworth   Fortman          LAFD/SAFER President                        elsworth.fortman@lacity.org

Kirk            Owen               Veridian Fire Protective Gear             kirk@veridian.net

Jack           Koltaj               Fedderal fire Ventura County             jack.koltaj@navy.mil

JIM                        CLEARY            PLYMOVENT                                       jtc1roadrunner.com

Joe             Sposato            Allstar Fire                                          Joes@allstarfire.com

Michael     Weisenberg     Ventura County Fire                            michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Lazaro       Martinez         Cascade Fire Equipment Co.               lazaro@cascadefire.com

scott          quinn               LAFD                                                    scott.quinn@lacity.org

tracy          rabe                 LineGear Fire & Rescue                      tracy@linegear.com

Bren          Cohee            Christian Brothers/Nederman            bren@cbhvac.com

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buellton[CS1]  , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

Kirk H. Owen – Regional Sales Manager – Veridian Fire Protective Gear

kirk@veridian.net

(888) 922-9433

www.veridian.net

(712) 260-3547

(712) 262-5200 #217

3710 W Milwaukee St.

Spencer, Iowa   51301

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment Co.

lazaro@cascadefire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

Tom Ramstead – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

Tom@LineGear.com

Jim Cleary – Plymovent

(800) 300-2945

(909) 720-7064

Jtc1@roadrunner.com

Air Exchange, Inc.

1494-B East Francis Street

Ontario, CA91761

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc.

Manufacturers Agent

(937) 689-2222

tmartin@repagency.host

2895 Valpak Rd. N.E.

Salem, OR97303

(800) 545-5678

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - June 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

June 17, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, Past President Dolan, Seely, Quinn, , Alvarado, Vender liaison Sposado

Los Angeles Fire Department

 Frank Hotchkin Memorial Training Center   

0930    Meeting called to order –  B/C President Fortman (Batt 13)  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LAFD for use of the facility and “WorkRite” Uniforms for hospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

• Program: Fire Service Grants

Battalion Chief Cori Tipton – “Homeland Security Grants Section”

corinne.tipton@lacity.org

(213) 202-9955 Office

26 Federal Agencies with “fingers” in the Grant pool. Grants are not “free money” in that you must satisfy a myriad of requirements to receive and utilize the dollars. Over 1000 grants available in various categories.

FEMA.gov to see all grants.

UASI – “Urban Area Security Initiative”. (21 Cities in US), Regional in nature as it is assumed other local / regional agencies will be needed to assist in a terrorism incident.   

SHSGP-“ State Homeland Security Grant Program”

PSGP- “Port Security Grant Program”

AFG – Assistance to Firefighters Grant (FF Safety), Largest Grant available in LACo. (Single Layer Pant example.

SAFER – “Staffing For Adequate Fire & Emergency Response” to meet 1710 / 1720 manning standard. Pays for

FP&S – “Fire Prevention and Safety Grant”

PERFORMANCE PERIOD: Time allowed to apply for, receive and completed approved grants.

Solution Areas:

Organizations

            Positions – hiring for backfill & overtime

Planning

            Must have deliverables

Training

Equipment

            Includes consumables

Exercises

*PowerPoint Presentation, Check Sheets and Test parameters available from presenters upon request.

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• Business Meeting:

Dues:

• Roundtable:

Scott Quinn Capt II – LAFD : Drill tower class graduating,

John Price -

Stuart Lovi – AllStar Fire Equipment –

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety: AB 2146 is proposed law being written for California that will mandate SCBA’s, PPE standards that meet NFPA 1851. State must make the implementation of the law coincide with funding (not a un-funded mandate). Cleaning and inspection will likely be the first to be implemented as it has low or no costs.

Eric Higgins VP – BestWay Laundry Solutions –

Mark Sheldon – Oceanside FD Retired – Days-Off Products: Introduced his product representation: TIC’s, Tools etc..

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment Company:

Bill Ward –

LN Curtis Fire Equipment:

Tom Langer –

• 1200 Meeting Adjourned

• Next Month AllStar Fire Equipment . Program:

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton[CS1]  , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

Kelly Whitt – Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniforms

(909) 289-5775 Cell

(562) 252-0155 Fax

kwhitt@workrite.com

www.workrite.com

1701 N. Lombard Street, Suite 200

Oxnard, CA 93030

Walt Dorn – Liqui-Pod

walt@liqui-pod.com

www.liqui-pod.com

(562) 244-2205 cell

(844)766-5763 ext 104

Bill Ward – Luqui-Pod

billward@cox.net

TJ Jasper - Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

www.bestwayls.com

Tyson Raner – Systems Consultant –  Construction Innovations – Fire Watch Digital Communications

(855) 725-9555

(916) 502-3414

5716 Folsom Blvd Suite 155

Sacramento, CA95819

Tyson.raner@constructioninnovations.com

Self-Contained , Portable Fire Alarm System

Ford Davies – B&D Safety Systems Inc. (Business Development)

(916) 765-8648 Cell/text

(800) 983-3518 Central Station

fdavies@bdsafetysystems.com

www.bdsafetysystems.com

Associates with: SecureWatch and FireWatch electronic monitoring units

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom@allstarfire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

Tom Ramstead – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

Tom@LineGear.com

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                     NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)    

Downey Fire (Retired)                Chuck Seely             (562) 824-3225                  firebiz@att.net    

LACFD (retired) MES                    John Price                562-212-6803                jprice@mesfire.com           

Straight Up Imaging             Terry Parisher      (912) 667-8990    terry@straightupimaging.com           

Qual-Tel                                           Frank Uram             800-442-1504             furam@qualatel.com

Cobra Litters                                   Steve Cooley          805-377-5348                    coolnco@aol.com

Bestwqy Laundry Solutions       Eric Jasoer               (800)562-6166       ejasper@bestwayls.com           

Cobra Litters                          Michael Schlags        808-896-7993                   mschlags@cobralitter.com      

Cobra Litters                     Breanna Bartolucci         805-245-1535                    bschlags@cobralitter.com       

Oceanside FD(retired)/Days Off Consultants         Mark Sheldone      760-505-3473            msheldone@sbcglobal.net      

Western States Fire Equipment      Louie Garcia    213-272-5680        lgarcia@vvgtruck.com   

Chistian Brothers Mechanical ServicesGavin Fenske714-515-0083                gavin@cbhvac.com         

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tom Ramstead   949-709-8808               sales@linegear.com           

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tracy Rabe         949-709-8808  tracy@linegear.com     

LN Curtis and Sons            Ed Shabro     76-250-1180           eshabro@lncurtis.com  

LACoFD                     Tony Duran            626-590-2991        Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com    

LAFD                        Ells Fortman            661-645-1810               ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org     

LAFDRetired         Jim Dolan                 562-400-1298                                jsdolan123@aol.com      

SC Products             Jim Evans                 770-634-0848                    jime@solutionssafety.com      

OCFA                         Russ Snider             714-308-4338                    russsnider@ocfa.org      

FireWatch                Ford Davies             916-765-8648                    fdavies54@gmail.com   

Christian Brothers Mechanical               Bren Cohee          951-703-8985        bren@cbhvac.com           

Liqui-Pod                  Bill Ward                  949-246-6999                    billward@cox.net

Ventura County Fire Dept    Michael Weisenberg 805-990-4326

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org    

Los Angeles Fire Dept     Scott Quinn             213-434-1380        scott.quinn@lacity.org  

Allstar Fire Equipment Inc.        Lazaro Martinez    626-255-0433        lazarom@allstarfire.com           

LACoFD                     Alvin Brewer          213-700-4184        alvin.brewer@fire.lacounty.gov        

LAFD                        John Cardenas        661-917-7019        john.cardenas@lacity.org         

VCFD                Robert Szczepanek       805-914-4021        Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org      

Santa Paula Fire     Keith Gurrola          805-377-1491        kgurrola@spcity.org       

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - August 19, 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 19, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   Seely, Quinn

Carlsbad Fire Department

 Carlsbad Training Center   

0950    Meeting called to order – Scott Quinn introduced B/C  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to Carlsbad Fire Department for use of the facility and FIRE ETC for morning Snacks and coffee.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

• Program: “Firefighter Rehab on Wildfires, Structural Firefighting Heat and Toxic Exposure”

Presenter: Mary Murphy, EMS Manger CBD

Reference links, PowerPoint available

Mary was an ER nurse for 20 years, Carlsbad FD for 8 years. Related her passion for firefighter safety – including illness / injury prevention policy development.

*Every 20 minutes of work you do your “core” temp increases 1 degree. Temp increases with each successive 20 minute period. Give frequent 1 to 3 minute breaks.

Reference: US Fire Administration – Feb 2008 – Rehab report covers 7 incident reviews.

HEAT STRESS Factors:

1. Air Temp

2. Humidity

3. Radiant Heat

4. Air Movement

5. Physical demands of work

6. Clothing

7. PF and body composition

8. Psychological / Perception

9. Medications

Signs / Symptoms of Heat Exhaustion:

1. Pounding Headache

2. Sudden Fatigue

3. Etc…

Insert Video – “TED Talk” (ed.ted.com) and Utube search “Exertional Heat Stroke” ^104 F degrees (40 C)

Rhabdomyolysis – Effects skeletal muscles, breakdown of muscle fibers resulting in widespread dispersal of waste product.

Signs / Symptoms of “Rhabdo”:

Trigger Points for “Formal Rehab”:

Has used 2 bottles of air (or 1 45-60 minute)

Monitor for Dehydration, CO, Cyanide, Hyperthermia, Heat Exhaustion / Heat Stroke

Active Cooling with submersion or wet towels

Overhaul:

Old days: Wood, cotton, silk, wool

Now: PVC, Nylons, Polyproplyene, numerous “plastics” etc.

Fire Gases and Vapors: CO, Carbon Dioxide, HCl, Nitrous Gases, Hydrogen Sulfide, Sulfur Dioxide, Acrolein, Ammonia, Formaldehyde, Benzene, etc..

4-Gas Monitor detects: Oxygen, HS, CO and lower Explosive limit

Co is 250 times stronger than 02 in attaching to hemoglobin

HCN is 33-35% more dangerous to oxygen carrying capability of RBC’s than CO

HS is a chemical asphyxiant and irritant

Fatalities from Heart Disease: FF = 45%, PD = 22% etc.

Increased Risks Include:

1. Tabaco Use

2. High Blood Pressure

3. Obesity

4. Cholesterol and Triglycerides

5. Diabetes

6. Metabolic Syndrome

7. Lack of physical fitness

8. Poor Diet Habits

9. Famiy Hx

10. Age / Gender

11. Noise

12. Psychological Stress

13. Shift Work

14. Sympathetic Activity

Reference: Oregon State “A study of Chemicals found in the overhaul phase 2011”

Lists chemicals found during overhaul phase that exceeded NIOSH and OSHA standards.

Reference: Phoenix Fire Dept.: Same results found as Oregon Study. PFD now requires SCBA protection during overhaul.

“Formaldehyde” discussed as a carcinogen found in fire gases. Thought to be a significant cause of Cancer in FF’s.

“Arsenic” discussed as a hazardous fire gas.

“Mercury” discussed as a fireground toxin. Found in many modern electronics and common household devices.

Additional fire gases discussed (see PowerPoint)

Cancer Statistics shown and discussed in the Fire Service demographic.

Reference: “FF Cancer Support Network” paper discusses the risk factors related to FF behaviors that increase the exposure to fireground carcinogens.

Two leading routes of exposure:

• Through the lungs

• Through the skin (dermal absorption)  

• Break to network with venders 11:1

• Roundtable: Cancelled  due to reduced attendance from numerous agency Wildfiredeployments.

• 1200 Meeting Adjourned

• Next Month Orange County Fire Authority . Program: TBA

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment

lazaro@cascadefire.com

714-715-8189

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

Charles Javer – antex Knitting Mills / Industrial Fabric Div

Manufacturers of PyroSafe Fabric

(213) 713-2347

Charles@antexknitting.com

FireEtc

Dave Kelaita – Regional Sales Manager – Fire, West Coast - Avon Protection Systems, Inc.

1361 Brass Mill Road, Suite F

Belcamp, MD21017

(657) 263-5507

Dave.kelaita@avon-protection.com

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                     NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)    

Los Angeles Fire Dept.

John Cardenas

661-917-7019

john.cardenas@lacity.org

LineGear Fire & Rescue

Tracy Rabe

949-709-8808

tracy@linegear.com

Los Angeles Fire Dept.

Robert Takeshita

213-278-3447

robert.takeshita@lacity.org

Cascade Fire Equipment

Lazaro Martinez

714-715-8189

lazaro@cascadefire.com

ventura county fd

Scott Dettorre

805-701-0150

scott.dettorre@ventura.org

Carlsbad fire

Chris Robinson

760-484-0629

chris.robinson@carlsbadca.gov

Carlsbad fire

Taylor Larsen

760-613-2026

taylor.larsen@carlsbadca.gov

Carlsbad fire

Joseph Gallucci

760-685-1480

joseph.gallucci@carlsbadca.gov